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2017 Model Rumors...

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GT-Rx®, Aug 31, 2015.

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My thoughts on this...

  1. 500cc - Good idea

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  2. 500cc - Bad idea

    11.4%
  3. V7 850cc - 2V - YES!

    30.4%
  4. V7 850cc - 4V - YES!

    50.6%
  5. I'm excited about the new H20 motor

    32.9%
  6. I think all of these are silly

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  1. GT-Rx®

    GT-Rx® Administrator Staff Member

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    In yet another turn of we'll never know what Piaggio Guzzi is doing next... Word from a secure source says that they will be offering a smaller "entry level" motorcycle ~500cc in 2017, and the "new" V7 was confirmed at 850cc. No mention of 2 or 4V or whether or not it would be air or water-cooled.
    The new big bike replacement H20 motor is still in development as well.

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. GuzziMoto

    GuzziMoto GT Reference GT Contributor

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    I can't imagine Guzzi would be able to get enough power out of a 500cc motor to make it much fun. That said, I used to own a Buell Blast and, after I had done some engine work to it to get the power where it should have been from the factory, it was really a lot of fun to ride. But it did require a big bore kit with higher compression along with a carb and cam to get it to that point.
    Making the V7 bigger seems like a good idea, and from what I gather about the big bore 4 valve kit I have heard about here it sounds like a good idea.
    My biggest hope for a future Guzzi I will buy is the new H2O motor. If they build a sporty bike based on that I might be getting one. But they better do it soon or I will be buying something else, like a V Max.
    I am not always a "bigger is better" kind of guy. Some of my favorite road bikes have been smaller bikes like an FZR400. But sometimes bigger IS better, like my KTM 440 dirt bike. If more power is good, too much power is just enough.
     
  3. McBean

    McBean Just got it firing!

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    a very few people have mentioned about my bike..they wish it was a more powerful engine…I don't disagree…but nod and smile, yep whatever. I have so much fun on this bike, I have a bigger engined bike for touring, but with this bike I'm kept very busy doing the speed limit around twisty roads…its very involving.
    A few younger guys are picking up smaller CC bikes and having a lot of fun on them, around out road….. power and speed does not always equate to fun IMO.
     
  4. tonUPRacer

    tonUPRacer Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Todd since you have more insight than many of us, which direction do you think they will go with the 850 2v or 4v? I'd like the idea of them going to a 4v but something tells me they will stick with a 2v head. That being said even if they do go to 4v, I don't know that I'd be trading my bike in, I've finally got it dialed in!
     
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    pokeyjoe High Miler

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    I don't think MG will do anything with the V7 for a couple years. Seriously, why should they? They finally have a model that they can't keep in stock at the dealers. Don't mess with a winning formula.

    I have heard of some sort of a replacement for the Griso. They don't have any room for an ABS pump and no one has seen anything on the horizon for a bike with that name. I think I did see something with a different name, but I don't remember that now.
     
  6. not-fishing

    not-fishing Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Things are decreasing in size every year and you'd be surprised what I keep behind my Griso's airbox under the seat.
     
  7. Rox

    Rox Just got it firing!

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    The rebirth of the 850 twin with some modern touches would be epic. 2 valves I'd prefer but 4 isnt a buzzkill. 80-85hp with 70-80 torques would be über cool.
    Some people say Im a dreamer. But Im not the only one,..
     
  8. GT-Rx®

    GT-Rx® Administrator Staff Member

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    Grabbed from an Italian site... 4V 850?! I hope they keep the name simple (V7) and not the two they hint at. 'Stone' is bad enough.

     
  9. abbienormal

    abbienormal High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Ok. I like the idea of the 4V 850. I am hoping for a smaller version of a Norge or Eldorado. What worries me is the names and am I willing to take a chance n a first model year Guzzi again. I had a 2007 Norge and now a 2014 model year California Tour that was originally purchased in 2013.
    Runner? Sounds like a good name for a 50cc 2-stroke moped or scooter.
    Bomber? Why? Grenade was taken? :mad:
     
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  10. tonUPRacer

    tonUPRacer Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    I think just putting the "rumor mill" into the existing lineup would make the most sense. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if these rumors are just that and we see some new paint in 2017 and nothing more. If they did come out with a 4V 850 that would be great, but I don't know that I'd be trading my bike in, I have it just the way I want it now, I don't feel like going through all that again on another bike.
     
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    GT-Rx® Administrator Staff Member

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    Andy, taken from the Lecco Newspaper, just outside of Mandello. We also heard it from Galluzi a few weeks ago on a 850, but he wouldn't say on the heads as to 2 or 4V. This article says 4V.
     
  12. tonUPRacer

    tonUPRacer Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    I'm not doubting your sources Todd, I just don't know that I believe what they say! I guess if it says they are making them for the American market it means they would be coming to our shores, I just hope it's not in the form of a "cruiser". I tested an Indian Scout last weekend and Diavel, and I didn't care for either of them.
     
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    tonUPRacer Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    I guess the good news is that for those who want a big bore 4V small block you have the kits ready to go. That is no rumor! Hope you have lots of success with them.
     
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    mwrenn Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    An 850cc 4V would be bad ass! I hope they make them....probably be a year and a half getting to the States though. Guess we will know in November! Runner...sheesh...
     
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    tonupman55 Just got it firing!

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    To me it seems like Guzzi already have all of their bases covered. The small blocks are fun and I'm happy with mine. Today at the Las Vegas Bikefest there were as many interested bikers snapping pics of my bike as muchas all of the Harley and Victory baggers.!! That said the Griso's are a good size up with more power. I'm just waiting to see someone strip down a California and turn it into a café bike.!!
     
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  16. Rox

    Rox Just got it firing!

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    All Guzzis are special. You just can't put your finger on it. Some just don't get them. However we do. I get the same thing when I ride my V11. A lot of true bikers tilt their hats to the Guzzis. I guess maybe a history thing? Who knows.
    Guzzi is on a roll right now. I personally am waiting for a new retro Lemans if they ever decide to do it. Till then I have my personal lust for the spines.
     
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    abbienormal High Miler GT Famiglia

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    There is something about it. Way more on my 1400 Tour than the Norge but just sitting at a stoplight more than once I have had thumbs up or "That's a nice bike" from strangers of all ages. Now, if they would just support the dealers and customers after the sale. I think even raising the price a few hundred, then using that money to say yes a little easier to warranty claims once the dealer verifys it is legit, would go a long way towards improving sales and customer satisfaction. More than the price hike would hurt. Just my opinion.
    Of course applying grease at the factory and fixing known problems wouldn't hurt either.
     
  18. Calijackalbob

    Calijackalbob Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I guess the
    Americans here won't get it, but the Guzzi Bellagio, that never made it to the USA is the perfect bike for a between the V7 and 11000 - 1200 range. It's a short stroke revvy bike that I personally think was dressed all wrong,.... looks like a cruiser, but in cafe style would be a great alternative to the Ducati Monster. With a V7 tank and seat, looks awesome, retro modern.
    I reckon it would sell well if it was dressed up right.
    You be the judge.
    Here's mine when I got it,...............
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    and in evolution...............

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    My bike, on the way to being like this

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    a 500cc Guzzi might work in Europe, but for me, bigger is better.
    Peter
     
  19. GT-Rx®

    GT-Rx® Administrator Staff Member

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    Don't rub it in Peter, I've been posting about the bike since it was first launched, and agree with you 110%. Dressed in V7 clothes, it would've been a bike that would've been even bigger in sales then the current V7 line IMO.
     
  20. Dennis F.

    Dennis F. Just got it firing!

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    850cc with 2V, dressed in a "V7"-way? I'd definitely buy such a bike.
    I've heard rumours, that Guzzi will / could go with the new V9 frame for some future V7 (III) models.
    There was some talking, that the V7II engine can already meet the new "Euro4"-emission regulations, without being LQed, so there might be a chance, to still ride that good old air-cooled engine (at least in the small engines...).
     

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