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Discussion in 'New Gen Cali 1400 8V' started by Tuono, Jan 7, 2015.

  1. Tuono

    Tuono Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Looking for a larger arc of light, has anyone considered/investigated a HID or LED option
    and is the current headlight circuit can-bus compatible?

    Regards

    Tuono
     
  2. kdirtrider

    kdirtrider Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    I just installed the HID Xenon headlight conversion kits by SDX that I got off Amazon. The high voltage power supply and controller for each light are difficult to squeeze into the 1400's headlight housing but it is very bright!!
     
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    abbienormal High Miler GT Famiglia

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    I'd like to know how bright it would be with the LED's. Seems easier and cleaner to install than HID.
     
  4. Tuono

    Tuono Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I would agree with your comments re the LED technology if the system was not CAN-BUS compatible but as it is CAN-BUS compatible, LED driver units are required.
    These units are approximately the same size of a slim line HID ballast.
     
  5. Tuono

    Tuono Tuned and Synch'ed

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    can you post some images of the install, any issues with heat in headlight?
     
  6. kdirtrider

    kdirtrider Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Okay so here's the story... I'm in Michigan and it's been -10F! So I took the headlight off and worked in the basement. Made a harness and ran it off a battery for 15 minutes. The low beam gets too hot and smells like plastic melting. My IR temp gun shows 300F inside the bulb area and I'd bet it would be much hotter if left on much longer. Whoa! Too hot! Going back to a halogen bulb for the low beam. The high beam might be okay. I have to do more testing (maybe today). Here's a picture with both HID lights installed (yes everything fits order the cover, but Yuk!)

    C14-Headlight.jpg
     
  7. Tuono

    Tuono Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Thanks for the heads up, the heat issue was one of my concerns. If the HID ballast fits under the cover, the LED drivers hopefully won't be an issue.

    Regards

    Tuono
     
  8. kdirtrider

    kdirtrider Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    I pulled out the HID driver for the low beam and did more testing with just the high beam installed. I powered it for 20 minutes without any melting plastic smells. The IR gun displayed 180F. Much lower than the low beam experiment. I think it will be okay but still going to do more testing before I sign off on it.

    Can you post the LED options that you are considering?

    Regards,
    Kdirtrider
     
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    GT-Rx® Administrator Staff Member

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    Thanks for the post and info. I have the LED versions on my store on the way to me to try in the RentAGuzzi C14C. I'll post up my findings and post a few pics.
     
  10. Tuono

    Tuono Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Todd

    re the LED versions, will they require driver units to counter the CAN-BUS requirements? or are they load rated to achieve the same result?

    Regards

    Tuono
     
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    I will find out and/or test when they arrive and let you know.
     
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    abbienormal High Miler GT Famiglia

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    While on the subject of headlight, does anybody else have water spots on the bottom inside of their headlight? Nothing major but as my warranty runs out in April and it takes MG 6 months just to decide if they will warranty anything (then you can wait for the parts to arrive) I am thinking this will be my problem if it is prone to doing any damage. Any way to get in there and clean it?
     
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    kdirtrider Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Todd,

    I'm interested to see if the H3 LED bulb will fit with the heat sink hanging off the back side. You might not be able to get the cover back on. Plus the heat coming off the radial fin heat sink might be a problem.
    With that said, I hope it works because the HID sure didn't!

    Regards,
    Kdirtrider
     
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    I will certainly let you know. The newest LED bulbs I am getting in are much smaller in size then that shown on my site right now, and the sink doesn't seem to get that hot at all from my basic tests by hand and leaving it on for 10-15 minutes. I'll post my findings.
     
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    njlefevr Just got it firing!

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    Is there anymore information on the LED's? The last post on this subject was almost a year ago. I'm considering going with the Sylvania Silverstars on my California 14.
     
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    I recently fitted a LED bulb for the H7 high beam. Got it from Xenon Depot. It has 4 copper braid 'tails' as heat sinks. Fitted in easily. The light performance seems very good from basic testing. I haven't ridden at night since the install. I am not aware of a H3 LED replacement for the low beam.

    Stephen
     
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    GuzziMoto GT Reference GT Contributor

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    I have similar. Spoke to the dealer here at the last service, and he mentioned it looked like the water was between the chrome ring and the outside of the light. Looked at it the other day and if I saw right, there may be some dead bug-critters in there too. Going back before I put the bike away next week and show him. Warranty runs out in July next year.
     
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    Run a unwanted business card around between the chrome ring and the headlight to clear away bugs and other dirt bits. Works a treat.
     
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    wissing Just got it firing! GT Site Contributor!

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    If it is water spots inside the lamp (and not only the chrome ring) there is a MG service instruction to dealers. My dealer re-sealed the the lamp on warranty.
     

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