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Matris fork install

slobyk750

Just got it firing!
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Well I did it. Replaced the Sachs shocks with the Matris. The install was difficult as the Matris fork was made for the "Kaifa" not the Sachs. One of the problems with servicing the shocks on my 2016 Eldo is that the fork nut/ fork leg will not drop through the triple clamp because of a flange on the nut. Most of my bikes that I have done service on previously were Japanese sport naked and race replicas which you remove/loosen the cinch bolts and the whole thing drops through the triple clamp. On the Guzzi, you have to loosen the fork nut with the legs in the bike and then use a spring compressor to move the spacer down enough to hold onto the nut at the bottom of the fork nut (difficult because of limited room). The problem with this is two-fold. One, you need to make a special tool measured out to 19mm and you need to remove the handlebars and you need a second person to hold down the spacer in order for you to put the 19mm on the nut below the fork nut. Another thing to do is, to use a large slotted screwdriver to expand the triple clamp top and bottom to remove the fork leg. After this, you can remove it. The reason why I will not go into any of the particulars on install as I don't want someone to do it and have bad results. The main difference between the Sachs and the Matris is the size of the bolt at the bottom of the lower fork leg. M10 fine (Sachs) and M12 1.25 for the Matris. The reason for my going on about this is because it has been my plan as I change front tires on whatever bike I have is to renew the fork oil. The fork oil was wasted after 12,500 miles black and smelled like sewer water. Going to ride it tomorrow and do any adjustments. One thing I will say it is a lot easier to work on the Matris than the Sachs. A couple of pictures as I painted the lower fork legs while I was at it.

Tools   1 Tools 2   1 Upper Matris   1 Fork lowers   1
 
Yea.....I'll be going to the dealer for this.........unless you're traveling in the northeastern part of the states looking for a challenge. :wondering:
 
One thing you will need to do is to contact Todd with the brand of forks that you have and see if the Matris will fit with not a lot of fuss. Incidentally, I went out for a lengthier ride yesterday and forks work great. I found that the difference in the Sachs and the Matris is that the Sachs have too much preload for my taste. Thus making the ride more harsh. With the adjustability of the Matris you can really dial in the "feel" of the forks. I also took out some preload on the 944 rear shocks to make the front and rear behave the same way. Much smoother especially on good pavement and much better on bad. Set up for mine is 16 clicks and 4 1/2 turns exposed on the preload. But the beauty of that set up is you can change it!
 
Is it relatively easy to change the settings? The stock rears are a pain to change and you have to have damn near bionic vision to make sure you dial in both sides the same.
 
I'm going to step in here to state for the record, Matris' kits are all drop in, no modifications needed. If you want to install the wrong kit for your bike, as shown above, you can. I worked closely with Matris to develop all Guzzi products to bring them to the U.S. Market.
I don't want anyone reading this to think that any of their kits (made for the correct forks on your bike) require ANY modification to work. They are plug and play.
I've revised the notes to LOUDLY state to check your fork type before ordering.
Early model 1400s w/adjustable Sachs 1400s use the F20 kit; https://gtmotocycles.com/products/matris-california-1400-cartridge-fork-kit
Later model 1400s w/non-adjustable Kafia use the F15 kit; https://gtmotocycles.com/products/matris-california-1400-audace-cartridge-fork-kit
 
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