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Heli-Bars for Moto Guzzi Norge...
- Thread starter radguzzi
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Expensive but price stock bars for most bikes with cast bars. Since most Helibars run about this price I was suprised they did not charge more for the low volume the Norge will probably generate. I had called them back when I was thinking of buying a Norge and they said they had no intentions of making them. I am glad some owner who lived close by offered up their bike and money for them to design something.
Mine are on order.
I just hope I like them. enough to justify the cost. I have over $850 in suspension upgrades (HyperPro, thanks Todd) on my Norge in the interest of handling and comfort so another $334 (#329.00 + $5.00 handling but free shippng? Go figure.) is bumping the modification costs up there.
Rudy
Mine are on order.
I just hope I like them. enough to justify the cost. I have over $850 in suspension upgrades (HyperPro, thanks Todd) on my Norge in the interest of handling and comfort so another $334 (#329.00 + $5.00 handling but free shippng? Go figure.) is bumping the modification costs up there.
Rudy
captshortfield
Tuned and Synch'ed
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A Heli-Bars alternative..... 
The boys at Gordy Tool (home of LumaLink light brackets) are in the final stages of producing a "set back riser" block which is a marvel of engineering. Each stock bar is mounted on a block which bolts to the triple tree. The top of the block is the secret. It is formed in such a way as to produce the desired lift and set back angle all at the same time. The trick is in the angle of the top of the block and the riser attaching bolt holes which are separate from and offset to the lower block mounting holes. To attach, nothing needs to be moved, removed, altered in any way. I have fit the first prototype to my Norge and with the exception of a few angle changes of the upper surface and top mounting bolt arrangement it will be a winner. I feel that the price will be well under the Heli-Bars so stay tuned. I will post pictures and details when the second prototype arrives. I am excited about this as they are no bigger than the original risers that I puchased and installed that offered only the rise in the grip location. :cheer:
The boys at Gordy Tool (home of LumaLink light brackets) are in the final stages of producing a "set back riser" block which is a marvel of engineering. Each stock bar is mounted on a block which bolts to the triple tree. The top of the block is the secret. It is formed in such a way as to produce the desired lift and set back angle all at the same time. The trick is in the angle of the top of the block and the riser attaching bolt holes which are separate from and offset to the lower block mounting holes. To attach, nothing needs to be moved, removed, altered in any way. I have fit the first prototype to my Norge and with the exception of a few angle changes of the upper surface and top mounting bolt arrangement it will be a winner. I feel that the price will be well under the Heli-Bars so stay tuned. I will post pictures and details when the second prototype arrives. I am excited about this as they are no bigger than the original risers that I puchased and installed that offered only the rise in the grip location. :cheer:
azccj
Cruisin' Guzzisti
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I just installed the Heli-Bars on my Norge 
. Like someone said above, very easy with good instructions, took maybe 45 min. These things are first rate, beautifully machined and really make a difference in the rider's position on the bike. No more wrist pain for me. I can't believe that Heli-Bars went to the trouble of making these beautiful things for the Norge and B1100 knowing that they weren't going to be able to sell that many of them, but I'm glad they did. Well worth the $335.00 I paid for them. Plan on taking a long ride tomorrow to give the Heli-Bars and new Airhawk seat cushion a road test.
Follow Up:
I went on a long 608 mile, 11 hour, ride today up in Northern AZ. The Heli-Bars work great as did the Airhawk air cushion so my butt, back and wrists like the new mods. But my knees where killing me by the end of the day. Maybe it was the 114 deg heat toward the end of my journey or maybe I'm just getting old but I could barely get my pants off with how bad my knees hurt. My knees always hurt nowadays while riding no matter what bike I ride and the longer the ride the more they hurt.
Anyone got any ideas on how to help keep the knees from hurting on long rides?
. Like someone said above, very easy with good instructions, took maybe 45 min. These things are first rate, beautifully machined and really make a difference in the rider's position on the bike. No more wrist pain for me. I can't believe that Heli-Bars went to the trouble of making these beautiful things for the Norge and B1100 knowing that they weren't going to be able to sell that many of them, but I'm glad they did. Well worth the $335.00 I paid for them. Plan on taking a long ride tomorrow to give the Heli-Bars and new Airhawk seat cushion a road test.Follow Up:
I went on a long 608 mile, 11 hour, ride today up in Northern AZ. The Heli-Bars work great as did the Airhawk air cushion so my butt, back and wrists like the new mods. But my knees where killing me by the end of the day. Maybe it was the 114 deg heat toward the end of my journey or maybe I'm just getting old but I could barely get my pants off with how bad my knees hurt. My knees always hurt nowadays while riding no matter what bike I ride and the longer the ride the more they hurt.
Anyone got any ideas on how to help keep the knees from hurting on long rides?
bobelpfan
Tuned and Synch'ed
Hi,
I have ordered a set for my Breva 1200, which has been getting very uncomfortable in both wrists, and aggravating a tennis elbow condition, strange as the last time I played tennis was in 1976....
The bike is otherwise a big step up from the California Stone I rode for the last four years until April, the Breva now has 4,500 miles up and gets better all the time.
I will be getting the Helibars delivered in the UK for
I have ordered a set for my Breva 1200, which has been getting very uncomfortable in both wrists, and aggravating a tennis elbow condition, strange as the last time I played tennis was in 1976....
The bike is otherwise a big step up from the California Stone I rode for the last four years until April, the Breva now has 4,500 miles up and gets better all the time.
I will be getting the Helibars delivered in the UK for
azccj wrote:
I feel your pain
Sometimes its unavoidable but... I've found dosing with Ibuprofen or Naproxen BEFORE a long ride has made a noticeable difference on how my knees feel at days end
(I'm not a doctor, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night :silly: )
PS sorry about thread hijack
I feel your pain
Sometimes its unavoidable but... I've found dosing with Ibuprofen or Naproxen BEFORE a long ride has made a noticeable difference on how my knees feel at days end
(I'm not a doctor, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night :silly: )
PS sorry about thread hijack
bobelpfan
Tuned and Synch'ed
Hi,
Having had knee trouble for over 20 years, my problem is Chondromalacia Patellae, which is the back of the knee splitting and splintering, which then shreds the fluid sac behind it, then chewing up the cartilage,and eventually hitting the bones and getting ulcers on the back of the kneecap, (This generates a fair degree of discomfort !!)
I saw a decent orthopaedic surgeon who put carbon fibre patches on the back of the knee,which stabilises the condition, I cannot run, but otherwise get by.
If you have major pain get it checked out earlier rather than later, as left untreated the next stage is removal of the whole kneecap,which then buggers up the hips and back.
The common treatment,which only takes a couple of days to get over is an arthroscopy, where they make small incisions and put in a fibre optic camera to check out what is going on,and can clean out any debris and splinters, which can help a lot with reducing the pain.
Back onto topic, I think getting the ergonomics right is vital, I do up to 15/18,000 miles a year when I can so doing it with a handlebar that causes joint trouble is not wise !
Regards
Bobelpfan
Having had knee trouble for over 20 years, my problem is Chondromalacia Patellae, which is the back of the knee splitting and splintering, which then shreds the fluid sac behind it, then chewing up the cartilage,and eventually hitting the bones and getting ulcers on the back of the kneecap, (This generates a fair degree of discomfort !!)
I saw a decent orthopaedic surgeon who put carbon fibre patches on the back of the knee,which stabilises the condition, I cannot run, but otherwise get by.
If you have major pain get it checked out earlier rather than later, as left untreated the next stage is removal of the whole kneecap,which then buggers up the hips and back.
The common treatment,which only takes a couple of days to get over is an arthroscopy, where they make small incisions and put in a fibre optic camera to check out what is going on,and can clean out any debris and splinters, which can help a lot with reducing the pain.
Back onto topic, I think getting the ergonomics right is vital, I do up to 15/18,000 miles a year when I can so doing it with a handlebar that causes joint trouble is not wise !
Regards
Bobelpfan
az, I agree with the idea of getting a check-up, but it can be worth-while to check your habits first. Not all joint aches are signs of trouble, some maybe just due to age and/or lack of (appropriate) exercise (or weight )... I find that pains after riding are often a result of too much tension during the ride, or of lack of abdominal exercise if the lower back is concerned.
I have to advise strongly against taking things like ibuprofen before hitting the road. It alters (degrades) your attentional state, one should not be operating risky devises with an effective dose in one's vein. That goes even more strongly for cocktails, where substances can amplify their efficiency/effects. Take the stuff after the ride, if possible before hitting the sack, to improve relaxation and thus healing of the traumatised tissues.
Oh, and unless there's been a big progress, it *should* only take a couple of days to get over an arthroscopy. Doctors will tell you not to worry, of course, but this can be less inoffensive as it seems. (Of course when the question arose for me, it was to check out my menisci, i.e. it involved getting inside the knee joint.)
)... I find that pains after riding are often a result of too much tension during the ride, or of lack of abdominal exercise if the lower back is concerned.I have to advise strongly against taking things like ibuprofen before hitting the road. It alters (degrades) your attentional state, one should not be operating risky devises with an effective dose in one's vein. That goes even more strongly for cocktails, where substances can amplify their efficiency/effects. Take the stuff after the ride, if possible before hitting the sack, to improve relaxation and thus healing of the traumatised tissues.
Oh, and unless there's been a big progress, it *should* only take a couple of days to get over an arthroscopy. Doctors will tell you not to worry, of course, but this can be less inoffensive as it seems. (Of course when the question arose for me, it was to check out my menisci, i.e. it involved getting inside the knee joint.)
bobelpfan
Tuned and Synch'ed
Hi,
I agree that taking painkillers whilst riding should be avoided, and can only commment that the eight (count 'em) arthroscopy ops I have had since 1992 have been relatively quick to heal, although recovery gets slower as we age, (As the T shirt says, ''The older I get the faster I was'', I prefer a few beers after the ride rather than pills, but too many and I am up all night singing !
Regards
Bobelpfan
I agree that taking painkillers whilst riding should be avoided, and can only commment that the eight (count 'em) arthroscopy ops I have had since 1992 have been relatively quick to heal, although recovery gets slower as we age, (As the T shirt says, ''The older I get the faster I was'', I prefer a few beers after the ride rather than pills, but too many and I am up all night singing !
Regards
Bobelpfan
guzzibob
GT Reference
While others experience may differ, in my experience taking ibuprofen or aspirin or acetomeniphen or any other OTC pain medication at proper dosages has zero effect on my riding-and certainly is less of a distraction than riding with significant pain that could be eliminated or substantially reduced by said medication. Alcohol is quite another matter, ditto many other substances. As for prescription meds, they of course vary wildly in their effects, side effects, & how any given individual reacts to them.
RJVB wrote:
I researched on-line for studies that would show hazard in using otc anti-inflamitories without coming to the same concerns you have about their safety. I've found on the Iron-Butt riders site that many use aspirin, but avoid all caffeinated beverages. Once again... only sharing what has been useful for me, but am not voicing medical advice.
That all being said... I really like the comments on trying different pegs to change the ergonomics (sounds fun to try different options)
I didn't mean to recommend something you don't like... just said what has worked (used occasionally)by me :unsure:
I researched on-line for studies that would show hazard in using otc anti-inflamitories without coming to the same concerns you have about their safety. I've found on the Iron-Butt riders site that many use aspirin, but avoid all caffeinated beverages. Once again... only sharing what has been useful for me, but am not voicing medical advice.
That all being said... I really like the comments on trying different pegs to change the ergonomics (sounds fun to try different options)
YBFAST wrote:
Hmmm, what I like or not doesn't really come into play: I too would sometimes like to be able to take that kind of stuff before riding. Or things against anxiety, depression, you name it. I'm just not taking the risk as there is no clear indication there'd be none ... and I'm never alone on the road
Well, that doesn't really amaze me. There's very little in terms of serious studies that I know of, and much of that probably isn't accessible publicly. (Rather, I know from collaborators who are medical doctors that there's preciously few independent studies on effect of various types of medication on driving fitness.)
I think there must be some ibuprofen here, I can try to see later what the leaflet has to say about operating dangerous machines. I'd tend to suggest taking paracetamol instead (even without driving/riding; less side-effects ) or even aspirin (though it's known that makes one drowsy).
Oh, yeah, those pegs. I guess I don't need (lowered) pegs if I'd want to drag my feet
Hmmm, what I like or not doesn't really come into play: I too would sometimes like to be able to take that kind of stuff before riding. Or things against anxiety, depression, you name it. I'm just not taking the risk as there is no clear indication there'd be none ... and I'm never alone on the road
Well, that doesn't really amaze me. There's very little in terms of serious studies that I know of, and much of that probably isn't accessible publicly. (Rather, I know from collaborators who are medical doctors that there's preciously few independent studies on effect of various types of medication on driving fitness.)
I think there must be some ibuprofen here, I can try to see later what the leaflet has to say about operating dangerous machines. I'd tend to suggest taking paracetamol instead (even without driving/riding; less side-effects
) or even aspirin (though it's known that makes one drowsy).Oh, yeah, those pegs. I guess I don't need (lowered) pegs if I'd want to drag my feet
guzzibob
GT Reference
RJVB wrote:
Yes. The point is that pain that is signficant enough to demand pain relievers is to me obviously more distracting than the possible subtle if existing at all effect of over the counter meds like aspirin/Tylenol/Ibuprofin when used as directed for the vast majority of folk. I don't need any double blind studies to come to this conclusion, to me it is obvious.
Yes. The point is that pain that is signficant enough to demand pain relievers is to me obviously more distracting than the possible subtle if existing at all effect of over the counter meds like aspirin/Tylenol/Ibuprofin when used as directed for the vast majority of folk. I don't need any double blind studies to come to this conclusion, to me it is obvious.
Getting back to the subject of this thread I have my bars installed and got a pleasant suprise. I can use the windshield mount of my Garmin GPS and mount the suction cup to the plastic on the upper clamp. I have a Cortech tank bag and had to move it back so the windshield buttons don't hit the bag. Enclosed are pictures. I have yet to ride it but next week it will get 600+ miles on it going to Virginia International Raceway for the AMA Superbike races. I still prefer maps. The GPS has not won me over by a long shot.
Ok, I put 1300 miles on the Norge last weeekend from NE Ohio to Virginia International Raceway through the backroads of West Virginia. I also had to do some long highway traveling due to riding part way back as my brother's bike had a problem and I had to follow him for that day to make sure he was ok.
Prior to the change I would get a sore shoulder and arm when doing long stretches. That is gone now. It is much more comfortable and easier to ride. I recommend them highly.
Prior to the change I would get a sore shoulder and arm when doing long stretches. That is gone now. It is much more comfortable and easier to ride. I recommend them highly.
bobelpfan
Tuned and Synch'ed
Hi,
I have received my new Helibars, very well made, but the cabling/brake hoses are VERY tight, I think the front hoses will need replacing, and I am experimenting to see if the throttles will work without modification.
I am puzzled as the set up should be identical to the Norge, and the Breva 1100, I have emailed Helibars website for advice,
Regards Bobelpfan
I have received my new Helibars, very well made, but the cabling/brake hoses are VERY tight, I think the front hoses will need replacing, and I am experimenting to see if the throttles will work without modification.
I am puzzled as the set up should be identical to the Norge, and the Breva 1100, I have emailed Helibars website for advice,
Regards Bobelpfan