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GuzziTech: A few thoughts & frustrations...

I seem to remember having a conversation similar to this, but im not sure what i said so here goes.

First, guzzitech is portrayed as a resource, like a library. Libraries are kind of low traffic areas.

Second, membership is a self sustaining/self defeating force. Between multiple site crashes, and a whole bunch of successive changes that didnt display properly on some computers/were just annoying, i nearly stopped reading this board for a while. It seems like you have lost a LOT of participation since then. With decreased participation comes even less participation. It discourages browsing/contributing when you see the same "last post" sitting there at the top of the board as you did 3 weeks ago.

How to pick it up again? I dont know. This forum serves a dwindling and ultra specific population of motorcyclists, so expansion probably isnt the answer. I would venture to say that neither guzzitech, nor the board itself, nor the members are the REAL problem, Moto Guzzi is.

While people taking insight from this board and discussing it on other boards is INFURIATING, i dont think that's the bulk of the problem. I think it just seems that way because it's real obvious and annoying.
 
Guzzitech and this web site is a major asset to all of us, please hang in there for us. As Mr Clam said, things were a bit unstable for a while but that is history and I see a bright future. :D

Peter, exactally where in the Bahamas are those Brazillian swimsuit models???? Will purchase air ticket as soon as I know!!!! :evil:

Regards, Paul
 
In my view Guzzitech is and always has been the #1 place to go for technical help. There are always people ready to offer support and the quality of the responses are great. Before I take on any major task I research it here.
Undoubtedly Guzzitech is the best at what it does.

So why doesn't everyone bring their tech questions here?

Look at Wildguzzi today. There are 38 threads shown, of which 4 have some sort of technical content. So just under 10%. The rest is stuff like the joke thread, Guzzis in movies, and "where's mountain bob?" (which amazingly has 58 replies and 1200 views). None of the chatter has any place here. So Guzzitech is never going to see the volume of use that Wildguzzi has.

Then, I guess Guzzitech suffers from the Walmart effect. If a guy can go to Walmart and pick all he needs in one place generally he will not go to six different specialist outlets even if the quality at the specialists is better and the price is lower.

I do not think you can fight or fix this. You must simply take pride in being the best.

By the way there is nothing wrong with being commercial. Be more commercial. Try to sell more. It doesn't harm anyone and might help you

But please do not give up

Geoff
 
Despite the almost universal opprobrium with which most non-participants hold WG I actually like the place. No, there is a high 'Noise To Signal' ratio but so what? That's not what that board is about. If people ask 'Tech' questions anywhere I contribute I'll answer them if time allows as long as they aren't overtly mad racists, festerheads, kiddy-fidlers or other forms of oxygen thief.

I'll continue to contribute to any board as long as *I* want to and enjoy doing so. I've effectively dropped off both the Australian lists because they got taken over either by boring fuquetards who told me I was a menace because I exceeded the open road speed limit or I spent my time being fronted up to by self-important dickheads who thought they were legends in their own lunchbox and who are so fiercely compettitive that you can't have a reasonable conversation with them.

I very nearly pulled the pin here for much the same reason a few months ago. My bikes run just dandy and if they break? I fix 'em. I'm happy to share my knowledge and experience and I'm also happy to say I'm wrong sometimes. The day I stop learning will be the day they stuff me in a pine overcoat. The fact I can be wrong doesn't, to me, indicate failure. To some it does. Also I know that sometimes I may be a bit 'Robust' and 'Forthright' in my approach and language. Guys? It's a fucking MOTORBIKE forum, not a seminary meeting for wayward novice priests! If I, or others, upset you 'cos we swear occasionally I'm sorry, but at age 50-whatever I ain't gunna change for you! Most people who have met me personally know that I don't soddomise small furry animals or slaughter children for fun and am capable of being 'Nice as Pie' but I'll be buggered if I'm going to do that for people who lecture me.

I can be a useful resource, use me, (Darling! Just spare the whip!) Just don't try and bloody lecture me or I'll mail you a month dead haddock in an airtight bag.

Pete
 
GT-Rx said:
Still not hearing the "why" -- perhaps I never will.

p.s. Forum input(s) should be carried into the bottom Fora.
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I ventured over to one of the other Guzzi sites just out of curiosity. Been a member there for a while but have never made a post there. I think the way the forum is set up just turned me off from the start, because of how difficult it was to find any tech info when I was looking for it shortly after getting my Guzzi. I found this very recent thread over there, and it seems the majority like it the way that it is, including "some of those who words carry weight in the real world and online".
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=30647.0

Maybe sometimes less is more? I'm not suggesting getting rid of all the categories, but maybe having as many as you do here is to confusing to some?
 
I like this quote in the thread Rugar linked to (and I stopped reading there):
This an ITALIAN motorcycle site, anything other chaos would be unnatural. ;)

Todd, I'm not sure you're going to get a lot of answers to your why question on here. Maybe if you asked over on the other sites, but that'd be delicate to put into words I presume.

This has long been my sole Guzzi-specific forum. When stability became an issue, I also got a bit frustrated with the fact that from where I stand and live, this is very much a cyber community. There *is* real-life social interaction, group rides and what-have-you going on, but just not here. So I joined a French forum, which has a very similar atmosphere (as far as one can compare anglosaxon and latin [biking] cultures) and set-up. There is valuable technical information on there too, and I try to cross-fertilise as much as I can. When I post information there from here (or vice-versa), I always mention the source.

But not everyone will always do that. That's life, unfortunately. If it were proprietary information and you were a (big) company, you'd probably sue. As Pete just wrote, there will also be people who posted technical information here, and will post it elsewhere too rather than posting a link. That's a pity in the sense that it takes them extra time and the person(s) they do it for do not get the possibly valuable context available here, but apart from that ... just shrug it off I guess!

BTW, I came here because GuzziTech popped up high if not highest in a Google search I did to try and find information how suitable a Guzzi would be for a beginner like me. That initial site had a positive tone to it, not just valuable *technical* information, but also equally valuable pleasure-of-ownership information, without which I'd maybe never decided to shell out for a new Norge! It's a pity that the archives of that old forum no longer function.

I haven't checked, but how high in Google's results do we end up for specific and for generic Guzzi-related searches? There's maybe some improvement to be made there, in order to generate more traffic? Maybe pay for a few of the ads that Google serves on the RHS of their search and email pages?

Finally ... Todd, isn't your current mood not also related to ... autumn leaves? ;)
 
I am sorry to hear that the cost of the Guzzitech forum is weighing heavy. I thought it had commercial use, to direct people to the business GuzziTech, and to generate goodwill for that site.

I think the comparison to a library is a good one. I go to different libraries for different purposes, some for their pulp magazines, some for literature, and some for technical books. This site has great value, and should be viewed as having fewer postings, but with higher technical quality.

I suggest making this site more commercial, so that it can approach self sufficiency. Making the link to the GuzziTech business more direct, and selling advertising space if possible.

I am open to suggestion, and don't want this forum to fail.

Joe
 
Todd;

I really do appreciate this site very much. And as the social forum is here as well, the need for the Mild Side forum has become less urgent. I'm anyway sick of the politicification :dry: over there.
I guess the crashes earlier this year - or was is last year? - may have scared some old users away, but my hope is that they will find their way back! I myself is putting up links to Guzzitech topics anywhere I can, it may give som new users to my best hope.
Guzzitech is invaluable to me.
Go share a magnum bottle of the best Nero d'Avola and a good plate of pasta alla Norma with a friend or two and you'll eventually see the sunny side of life again. ;)
 
Heh, given the location of Mandello, a Brunello or possibly a Nebbiolo-based wine would be more appropriate ;)
 
Guzzitech is a great site. There is a good chance I would not own a Guzzi if it wasn’t for your site and a few others.

Over the years I’ve run across the anti-profit mentality often. It appears to be getting worse. Curiously in my life it always seems to rear its ugly head in regards to a venture that I have an inordinate passion for. Ironically the same people who falsely equate profit with greed fail to see that many times it is their own selfish interests for freebies that is truly greedy. I’ve received probably thousands of dollars of tech advise and help from Guzzitech so am more than happy to buy my Power Commander or diagnostic tool here if it will (through its profits) help you keep the site available.

Thanks for all you guys do.
 
RJVB said:
Heh, given the location of Mandello, a Brunello or possibly a Nebbiolo-based wine would be more appropriate ;)
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Admitted. But the Sicilian food&wine is a better cure in this case. It's cold in Mandello today. Hah! :p
 
Do not over-estimate the Mediterranean winter climate. It's often much more depressing than a good old (mountainous) winter!
 
RJVB said:
Finally ... Todd, isn't your current mood not also related to ... autumn leaves? ;)
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I live in the land of the "Endless Summer."

There are a HUGE number Forums online that have multiple Categories, and do very well (i.e. ADVRider).

For those who haven't been around long enough to see it, ALL Forums have issues at times. Some are better then others. WG has suffered many big crashes, and IMO, has survived simply because of a (somewhat deceptive) link to it originally from the MGNOC. Many have quit the MGNOC because of it.
Greg Bender seems to have that fixed now that he is heading up the MGNOC's web site, and though I've never met him, he sure seems to have issues with this site and products. GuzziTech.dk becoming part of his site, probably widened the gap.

Right now, I don't have the time to make the site more commercial, though I am working (slowly) on integrating more data and bringing the Store onto this site. We'll see.

Last words... I'll put a Poll up following this post, to see if combining topics would be more helpful/usable. I'll see where things land by the end of the year, and make a decision then.
 
If you want to KNOW things about Guzzis there's no better place than this one.
I only visit another Guzzi forum (in Spanish) which has excellent people, but it's nowhere near the amount of data this one has, or can provide.

Here I've found -and purchased- VDSTS, PC-V+AT and I wouldn't have bought them in another place because I wouldn't have found the info in another place!!!

We are not going anywhere, and sincerely, I don't think I miss any of the noise out there.
 
Pete
It sounds to me like you think I was rubbishing WG.
Quite the opposite. I think it is a great multi purpose site.
The point I was trying to make is simply that a narrow technical site cannot expect to capture the user volume.
Nor canb it expect to capture all the technical traffic - because people prefer one stop shopping

Geoff
 
Geoff said:
The point I was trying to make is simply that a narrow technical site cannot expect to capture the user volume.
Nor can it expect to capture all the technical traffic - because people prefer one stop shopping
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Correct, which brings me back to my original point... I've put in years of capturing/indexing tech data on GuzziTech.com - many do not seem to know about it after all these years, yet those that do, hardly ever seem to want to chat or link to us from other places (though lately I've seen more), what gives? I can't figure it out. Additionally, some of our original site sponsors (no $ has been collected from them in a few years), I wish they would post here as opposed to only elsewhere, especially when it comes to Technical info and the future of the marque.

I am forced to peruse different forums on occasion (or when sent direct e-mails) as to threads that involve mis-stated information or just bad/wrong info about us or our products. It's exhausting, and I just don't have the time to do it any more.
 
I'm a long time lurker who just recently joined up...my opinion therefore is probably without great merit in the grand scheme of things.

Personally, I visit 3 Guzzi forums in the main - this one, Wild Guzzi and the french webemoi.guzzi forum (serves 2 purposes as i'm trying to improve my French). I venture into the MGCUK forum from time to time as well, but that seems to be the internet equivalent of a sealed eco-system with access for club members only.

WG has the most turnover, probably, and some good contributors, but the content is light...the tech stuff here is great, and to be honest more valuable. It's taken some perservernce though, because the layout and format isn't particularly intuitive initially. However, it's much more useful when you get into it.

I say you've done a great job and I certainly hope you carry on with it. The commercial side of things I have no issue with, in fact Guzzis are (IMO) hard to find aftermarket parts for, so i'm all for more products being offered...

I'm all for the irreverent approach too. A lot of Guzzi forumists are the kind of people that everyone thinks ride Guzzis (and hence stops them buying one), rather than the interestingly eccentric / wilfully obtuse types that make life more interesting. There's certainly plenty of the latter here. A trackday tuned Cali is the kind of oddball lunacy that attracts me to Guzzis...
 
Well, as some one who has bought a few things from GuzziTech and has donated a small amount of money to help keep the site going (I know it is not a lot but it is what I can afford) I certainly hope you persevere. Besides, I only go here and to V11LeMans.com and I expect to get banned from that site soon as there is an evil troll who lives under that site and periodically spews forth (mis)information that I feel compelled to call him on. It then usually de-evolves from there and as I am running out of patience for him I am getting closer and closer to being out of there.
Here there is none of that B.S. and you can actually have an intelligent discussion of engine temp sensors or ceramic coating with out name calling and insults.
I too wish there was more activity on this site but not at the expense of quality.
 
As a relative Guzzi noobie, and someone who likes to do as much wrenching as he can. I have found this site to be BEYOND helpful with all the info and knowledge that is available here. Never mind the people here who are willing to go out of their way to help out. I found this site before along with the WG site, and I lurked here for a good month and had it not been for this site, I more then likely would not have bought a Guzzi. It would be a shame if this site were to disappear from the web. If money is a key issue, I would have NO problem with a yearly fee to keep the upkeep of the site up and running.

Just my insignificant 2c
 
perhaps the TECH portion of guzzitech scares away the stereotypical guzzi folk who ride their bikes till the steel belts show on their tires cause it still "works"
 
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