jdelv
Tuned and Synch'ed
Greyo said:
Ok. Got it. Where are the correct torque specs on the 07 Griso posted? How can I get all 2007 Griso service bulletins and recalls?
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Oil Filter Options... CARC Guzzis
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Ok. Got it. Where are the correct torque specs on the 07 Griso posted? How can I get all 2007 Griso service bulletins and recalls?
-Jon
Greyo
Cruisin' Guzzisti
I'm afraid there's no easy answer to your question; keep searching Guzzitech (and other reputable MG sites as well) for as much info as you can, evaluate it thoroughly, use common sense, and then draw your own conclusions...jdelv said:
Dealing with uncertainty is part of the Guzzi experience... welcome to the club
Rafael
GT Reference
jdelv said:
Just quickly read thru the article, using the search function 'cause I'm lazy. Read it again. It doesn't say that Fram is approved by Guzzi. In the body of the text it implies it is. There are other filter brands that list some guzzis as an application as well, I doubt that MG has approved them.
Those errors in the manuals suck!
John Z, I watched the linked video about Fram filters and other brands, this guy makes all the brands look the same; poor quality.
Penis Rotor
GT Godfather!
Why not just buy the right f@cking filter? It's not like you're going to need an 'Emergency' filter? Order your service requirements in a lump before you need them! Is that rocket science?
If you *really* need to save $2 per oil change should you really be riding an expensive Italian motobike?
Buy an Aprilia SR 50! It does 100Km/Litre and doesn't even need an oil filter! It's Italian though!!!
Pete
If you *really* need to save $2 per oil change should you really be riding an expensive Italian motobike?
Buy an Aprilia SR 50! It does 100Km/Litre and doesn't even need an oil filter! It's Italian though!!!
Pete
This happened to every motorcycle forum I went, from East to West, in all languages.
People debating in pages the use of compatible oil filters which they replace once or twice in a year. I start to believe that such act is not because of saving a dollar or two but the fun of debating and killing time on the internet.
The resources spent on this topic globally probably enough to build a spacecraft to the Mars, not to mention the oil thread :roll:
Phang
People debating in pages the use of compatible oil filters which they replace once or twice in a year. I start to believe that such act is not because of saving a dollar or two but the fun of debating and killing time on the internet.
The resources spent on this topic globally probably enough to build a spacecraft to the Mars, not to mention the oil thread :roll:
Phang
Penis Rotor
GT Godfather!
Do Fram make an oil filter for a Mars probe? Be it costs more than $22 :mrgreen:
pete roper said:Why not just buy the right f@cking filter? It's not like you're going to need an 'Emergency' filter? Order your service requirements in a lump before you need them! Is that rocket science?
If you *really* need to save $2 per oil change should you really be riding an expensive Italian motobike?
Buy an Aprilia SR 50! It does 100Km/Litre and doesn't even need an oil filter! It's Italian though!!!
Pete
Pete,
I buy the Bosh 3330 filter (yes in bulk) because I've come across too many leaks with the UFI, not because of price. (It doesn't hurt that it is also the replacement filter for most of the BMWs I work on and the BMW filter wrench fits perfectly.) Some people have had to tighten the UFI so much, I though I wouldn't get them off when they brought their bikes in for service. I bought a 3 legged filter tool just so I can get them off. I fill the Bosch with oil, coat the gasket with grease (not oil) tighten to 15 Nm, and no leaking filter.
Greyo
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Mr. Roper,pete roper said:
I get your point, but you are misinterpreting why some folks are curious about alternative filters to the OEM UFI.
My motivation is certainly not to save a couple of bucks on an oil change; right now I'm only using UFIs, and will likely keep doing so as long as my Griso is under warranty (to avoid the risk of getting it voided).
Nonetheless, it is precisely because I ride an expensive Griso that I am interested in gathering as much info as I can about the best possible filter for it. So far, I am not convinced that UFI is the best possible filter for my bike - I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong on this, but I suspect that the OEM UFI filter has just a traditional, all-cellulose filtering element rather than more effective filtering media found in latest-generation filters.
Incidentally, all UFI 14-flats filters that I have purchased recently here in the US are labeled "Made In Tunisa" rather than "Made in Italy"; nothing necessarily wrong with that, of course... only, I hope this doesn't imply an increased chance of finding fine Sahara-desert sand inside a brand-new UFI :lol:
DanPez
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Here's a left turn ...... I use HifloFiltro.
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/.
Been using it since breakin period. Can't say I've had problems.
14 flute oil filter, Made in Thailand, torqued at 15Nm
2.08$us less
Forgot to add: The UFI on my LM3, from the previous owner, leaked. :whistle:
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/.
Been using it since breakin period. Can't say I've had problems.
14 flute oil filter, Made in Thailand, torqued at 15Nm
2.08$us less
Forgot to add: The UFI on my LM3, from the previous owner, leaked. :whistle:
I used to say, use the specified UFI until the Norge leaked with the UFI. I'd never had a Guzzi that you could tell whether it was leaking or not until then. :whistle:
So, I changed to the Bosch 3330. <shrug> No leaks since, and it appears to be a well made filter. It's priced like it's well made, at any rate..
So, I changed to the Bosch 3330. <shrug> No leaks since, and it appears to be a well made filter. It's priced like it's well made, at any rate..
Greyo
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Does anyone know how many PSI is the relief valve of the OEM UFI filter set to?
SlickT
Tuned and Synch'ed
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Glad this thread is up, and after reading through it, I'm ordering some Bosch filters off of Amazon. They have the Hiflofiltro as well for only $3, but Bosch seems more reputable and will be here with free two day shipping for my spring change this week. Local shop sells AGIP as well, just had no filters! Cheers and safe riding fellas.
Greyo
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Thanks much, Todd.GT-Rx said:
Does this mean that other filters frequently mentioned as an alternative (e.g., Bosch 3330, Purolator PL10241 etc, which are rated 12-15 psi) could be problematic in this respect?
This is likely quite naive (I'm no engineer), but to me 8-ish psi seem a bit on the low end for a CARC 8V engine running a 10W-60 grade oil (quite viscous at temps below 20 deg. C)... wouldn't the relief valve pop open if we started our 8Vs from cold in winter temps?
Greyo,
I wouldn't worry about using the Bosch 3330. It was recommended to me by an MGNA service representative. Like you, I think the 8 PSI may be low. However, that is only in case of blockage to keep oil flowing, better unfiltered oil than no oil at all.
I wouldn't worry about using the Bosch 3330. It was recommended to me by an MGNA service representative. Like you, I think the 8 PSI may be low. However, that is only in case of blockage to keep oil flowing, better unfiltered oil than no oil at all.
Greyo
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Thanks John.
I've noticed Bosch now produces the 3330 also in its latest "DistancePlus" line:
(http://www.boschautoparts.com/Filters/Pages/DistancePlusOilFilters.aspx)
Do you know anything about these?
All I know is that they are more expensive than the plain-vanilla 3330 - I'm wondering if that translates to a more efficient filtering medium...
I've noticed Bosch now produces the 3330 also in its latest "DistancePlus" line:
(http://www.boschautoparts.com/Filters/Pages/DistancePlusOilFilters.aspx)
Do you know anything about these?
All I know is that they are more expensive than the plain-vanilla 3330 - I'm wondering if that translates to a more efficient filtering medium...
Greyo said:
I can't answer your question, I just don't know. I didn't even know that Bosch had the Distance Plus line.
As John says, the 3330 is what is recommended by MGNA Tech Svcs, so don't sweat it. The number I quoted above is for the older Cali UFI filter. I'm not positive what, if any differences there is to the new version.Greyo said: