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Dry clutch, what to expect?

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rodclement

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Hello everyone,

Tomorrow I go meet and test ride my possible 2006 Griso 1100. The owner mentioned the dry clutch on the bike as if i should expect some sort of difference in the shifting on this bike over my Suzuki, and Harley? Flags went up in my head...
Should I expect something different or any noise levels from this clutch/bike? Or is the current owner trying to cover a possible issue? I may be just over-reacting to the whole thing but just wanted to ask here before i go up to meet the guy tomorrow, at least I will know what to expect.

Thanks in advance!
Rod
 
Sitting on the bike in neutral and not depressing the clutch you will hear a rattle. This is totally normal and you will hear similar on a Ducati. When you pull in the lever that noise will stop and basically the clutch will act like any other, you should feel smooth take up and nothing much to tell you it's a dry clutch.

Do not drag and slip this type of clutch of it will glaze up and squeal. This is a long lasting setup, I had a Griso 1100 and loved it.

Phil
 
vivo said:
Sitting on the bike in neutral and not depressing the clutch you will hear a rattle. This is totally normal and you will hear similar on a Ducati. When you pull in the lever that noise will stop and basically the clutch will act like any other, you should feel smooth take up and nothing much to tell you it's a dry clutch.

Do not drag and slip this type of clutch of it will glaze up and squeal. This is a long lasting setup, I had a Griso 1100 and loved it.

Phil
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Phil is on the right track but not exactly clear. With the bike in neutral and the clutch lever pulled in (clutch disengaged) you will hear the noise. When the lever is released (clutch engaged) the noise will go away. The noise comes when the clutch is disengaged from the three plated moving around in the flywheel assembly. Once the pressure is back on the plates (clutch engaged) the noise will go away. He is also correct about not slipping the clutch. You still need to use some friction zone when starting off, but don't slip the clutch like you can with a wet clutch arrangement. The clutch works just like one in a car or truck (those are dry clutches also). Unfortunately most folk these days have driven only automatics.
 
Thanks to both! This is what I was hoping to hear! It seems like the seller is 100% on the up-and-up! Well, tomorrow night we shall seal the deal!

Thanks again guys! I'll post tomorrow if I buy the bike!

Rod
 
fotoguzzi said:
my clutch rattles with clutch lever released and in neutral, pull in and the rattle goes away.
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That would be something in the gearbox. The plates can't be moving around to make noise with spring pressure on them.
 
Foot? What bike? If its one of the single plate V11's then it'll rattle with the lever 'out' and be quiet with it 'in'. The reverse of the twin plater. Just sayin' but I didn't think you gad a Griso?

Pete
 
With the engine running, step five feet from the bike, rattle, rattle. .. check
Now put both hands into pockets, sit on bike, take left hand out of pocket, squeeze lever in, rattle stops, check... now have a beer, the bike is fine, good job

Vivo
 
What Pete said jogged my memory. My first 2006 1100 Breva had the single plate clutch. My second one (after the first being totaled by an unlicensed and uninsured driver) has the two plate clutch. Guzzi's affinity to put in whatever is on the shelf just adds to the confusion. My comments were based on the two plate clutch as I believe most 2006 and later bikes have until the recent single plate versions on the 8 valve bikes.
 
Nah. John, all the pushrod engined bikes should of had the twin plater. The single plater requires a completely different gearbox and clutch that was introduced with the 8V.

Pete
 
Is there any particular reason why they need such stiff springs on that clutch?

It seems to me that for a 10 ft lb increase in torque nearly across the board, a 25% increase in spring pressure would suffice. Ive ridden 140+ hp bikes with wet clutches that are easier to pull.

What gives?
 
Wasn't there a recall to add a shim to the clutch to quit it down a little. It dind't do anything mechanically just for noise.

Also if you slip the clutch on your test drive don't worry about it the clutch won't glaze over. It only glazes when slipped a lot.

The only difference I notice in clutch is hydraulic operated (Griso) over a cable operated. The hydraulics typically engage late in the release of the clutch lever. While cable clutches can be adjusted to engage sooner.

Don't let the clutch geet to you. Get on and ride.
 
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