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2021 Guzzi Wish List

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GTM®, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. jwtucker

    jwtucker V11 Sport 4 Life

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    Not holding my breath for a big-block sport bike out of them, but... would love to see a retro-inspired V85 LeMans. Something with elegant lines, that when you look at it you immediately recognize it at something Italian, and not a futuristic prop from a sci-fi B movie. I prefer my bikes to look like they were inspired by the form of a beautiful woman, and not like some sort of spindly insect.

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  2. DeadEye

    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    9C6865D5-32D7-4B23-B347-8786CA648D5A.jpeg I imagine everyone has already seen this ?

    I don’t know If it would “Realy” be rideable...
    But it’s not an Abomination to look at ;/
     
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  3. GTM®

    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Pretty to look at art project. Most of these "designer/builders" clearly don't ride. Even if it would run under it's own power... you have 1" of suspension travel before you start to destory body parts, and no one aside from someone with a 24" inseam could sit on the seat and put their feet on the pegs, seat to peg is likely ~12" or less. Top it off with (pretty much) bicycle wheels and tires, and no thanks.
     
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  4. DeadEye

    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I wouldn't say "It's Easy" to make Un-rideable art... It is interesting - but not practical.
    Where as - from what Ive seen of your customs - there Clean machines - where less is More !
    What could be done with a little V35 ?
     
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  5. GTM®

    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    I never said easy. Metal-shapers are artisans. My points are all valid. I would put any of my builds up against all of these builds in real world riding any day. The one linked above is not ride-able, unless you count riding around the parking lot as riding. ;)
    Anything is possible with whatever model you'd like. Not sure how far you'd get with a V35, or why... but to each their own I guess.
     
  6. DeadEye

    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    The idea for a third bike would something in a Cafe Racer style, cheap plate below 400cc to put on the road, something to scoot around locally not all day rides and no gravel ;) !
     
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    pepin1234 Just got it firing!

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    Designers are motorcyclist too. I can’t tell a design is unrideable if I never test them or never have been officially tested.

     
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  8. Mayakovski

    Mayakovski High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Thank you for this. What a wonderful attitude. This is exactly why I got my Anniversario, I did not want the fastest, the sharpest handling or the lightest. I wanted and got the most fun.
     
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  9. GTM®

    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    All good. Time for me to walk away from this thread. Pic below of myself in between Miguel and his son (I'm ~6') at my shop, behind my supercharged build.
    You'll find my bio on this site in the Lounge section if you care to look. Enjoy the site.

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  10. DeadEye

    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Consider it my Dondolino or Poltrona ( with less power ) ;)
     
  11. GTM®

    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Gotcha. Back in 2003, I raced (and won with) a very rare Dondolino (pic in my signature below). They are pretty special.
    I'll assume you mean an Airone or similar. Honestly you might have close to what an Airone would set you back, and you still have nothing no where as cool. ;)
    Anything is possible with $. Nothing I personally would want to tackle.
     
  12. Robert Gibson

    Robert Gibson Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Just to throw my two cents (tuppence, in real money :rofl: ) into the ring. My ideal build would be a GTM Bellagio, cruiser orientated with the option of dual or single seat, removable luggage such a H&B C-Bow and a detachable screen. Nothing fancy just practical and reliable.
     
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    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    D9D5B33E-8F05-4A7C-BDF2-BBD58A8AACE3.jpeg Indeed, but in another 20 - 40 years a V35 might be considered something special.

    With more power I would just get into trouble faster.

    There is an expression - it’s more fun to drive a Slow car fast, than drive a Fast car slow.
     
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    Mayakovski High Miler GT Famiglia

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    So very, very true.
     
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    SMTCapeCod Mechanochondriasism GT di Razza Pura

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    Kindo a Husqvarna Svartpilen-isti?
    I find the simple lines and big black box more compelling than those design studies. But I'll be on petrol for a while to come based on pricepoints.
    tarform.com
     
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    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    That has some characteristics similar to this Custom Lotus Bike -the cowl hole ?
     
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    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    PS: I never really noticed the angle on the forks before , they are out there like a Chopper !
    That thing won’t turn for @#$&
     
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  18. Ron S

    Ron S Just got it firing!

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    What is the reasonable limit of reliable horsepower and torque from the V85 engine? my Ducati 900CR is 75 hp at the rear wheel and is enough to have fun with.
    my 2017 Griso is faster and pulls harder, but they are both fun and the Duc has a different feel because it is about 100 lbs or so lighter.
    So a new version of the LeMans with a high performance version of the V85 engine and retro sport styling is what would interest me. The Bobber Sport is headed in the right direction but for me, is not there yet.
    Sportier (LeMans, retro sport) styling and better suspension/brakes with an uprated version of the existing engine might do it.
    Look at how successful Triumph has been with their Bonneville line.
     
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    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Are you asking about factory delivered power or aftermarket? Guzzi has maximized the small block about as much as possible, unless the bore is increased... Which is certainly something Guzzi would have the means to do. There’s a few dyno charts online that show ~5 hp gains with exhaust and fueling (below), so 65 stock up to 70 hp at the tire. In the V7 chassis, it would put it where most people want one. So sad to see the big block motor go away, but then there’s my GTM offerings to fill that void. We shall see what the future brings for Guzzi next year.

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  20. DeadEye

    DeadEye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    What does the plot look like for a V7 III with your map and an Free'er flowing exhaust ?
    Same ~ 5hp gain ?
     
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