Air cooled engines

[schimenator]

When Guzzi and Harley go to water cooking there will be no more air cooled bikes. So it really doesn't matter whether you like water cooled or air. You'll get water cooled or you'll get a used bike.

I've owned both and prefer water cooled for winter riding because they warm up so much faster, but nothing beats the look of an air cooled engine, hanging out in the breeze. That's what a motorcycle should look like IMHO.

 

[RJVB]

I've owned both and prefer water cooled for winter riding because they warm up so much faster

Not sure I really appreciate the paradox or pun ...!

 

[afulldeck]

I've owned both and prefer water cooled for winter riding because they warm up so much faster

Not sure I really appreciate the paradox or pun ...!

Think Oz!

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi.....

 

[sandy]

The whole bike experience is supposed to be fun even working on them, although I would rather ride than do the spannerwork. Mark

I've never considered working on a bike fun.
More of a chore

I personally think that working on the bike, makes riding fun...

So I'm riding along and feel my clutch slipping.
I think, Hurrah, can't wait to get home and get that engine out.
Oh Joy !!!

 

[Mark111]

So I'm riding along and feel my clutch slipping.
I think, Hurrah, can't wait to get home and get that engine out.
Oh Joy !!!

Sandy,
I'm puzzled by this discussion.
If you don't like to work on bikes then DON’T, pay someone else to do it.

I'm not unique, there are many people who do like to work on mechanical things, bikes, cars etc. and derive pleasure from diagnosing and solving a problem that has developed, a bit like life really.
I can entirely understand that there are people who loath the experience of doing mechanical work, that is why there are mechanics who make a living out of the trade.
I hate gardening and I would gladly pay someone to do it if I could afford it as I have many better things to do such as surfing, riding my bike, playing football or any of a dozen other things I enjoy.
I do however know many people who love the experience and derive great pleasure from nurturing and developing their gardens, I don't understand it but I have no problem with people enjoying it.
As a final point one of the reasons I do work on my bike and cars is so I don't experience the annoying situation of something going wrong.
I can say that apart from a few minor instances my vehicles have rarely ever let me down and usually when they have I have had the knowledge to be able to fix them without to much drama due to the experience gained by working on them.
Oh by the way I fixed the slipping clutch when I was out riding and didn’t have to wait until I got home, I workd out it was a simple adjustment issue.
Maybe it is where I am from but I'm sure the glass is half full.

We are now miles off the original topic so I will leave it at that.

Mark

 

[schimenator]

"So I'm riding along and feel my clutch slipping.
I think, Hurrah, can't wait to get home and get that engine out.
Oh Joy !!!
"

Now that's funny!

For the most part I enjoy fixing my own bikes. I really enjoy not having to.

 

[sandy]

Sandy,
I'm puzzled by this discussion.

And I'm puzzled by this :?

If you don't like to work on bikes then DON’T, pay someone else to do it..

:?

All I said was that I don't derive any pleasure from doing mechanical work, and I'm being grilled for it.

I do however know many people who love the experience and derive great pleasure from nurturing and developing their gardens, I don't understand it but I have no problem with people enjoying it.

Exactly my point, so should I be judged simply because I don't enjoy spannering.
I don't have any problem with people enjoying it though, just as in your gardening analogy.
Did I say anywhere that I did ?
Sorry but your response is also puzzling.

:roll:

 

[michaelba]

Most modern internal combustion engines are cooled by a closed circuit carrying liquid coolant through channels in the engine block and cylinder head, where the coolant absorbs heat, to a heat exchanger or radiator where the coolant releases heat into the air. Thus, while they are ultimately cooled by air, because of the liquid-coolant circuit they are known as water-cooled. In contrast, heat generated by an air-cooled engine is released directly into the air. Typically this is facilitated with metal fins covering the outside of the cylinders which increase the surface area that air can act on.

 

[Mi_ka]

If you are a 'bot, you are the less intrusive 'bot I 've seen so far...

 

[carockwell]

If you look at using oil to cool the motor instead of water the results are promising. The 50/50% water/coolant mix does not transfer heat much better than a good ester based synthetic oil. In fact, I am not sure why more companies don't use the oil based technology. There is some significant difference about the way oil flows through a radiator compared to water that I don't understand, but oil is still a viable cooling medium. My understanding is that a full water cooling jacket around the entire combustion chamber and cylinder significantly reduces noise levels. I don't think that exhaust emissions are the primary reason for water cooling.

 

[Guz5]

My views are, after the mk1 and the SP then the cali carb, then the injected, the Centauro, the Norge. All were a little different from the other re styling and improvements. I feel the water cooled version will be an expression of art like most of their new models, being italian, and the extra complexity will be easy to get over and live with for most of us do it ourselves entheiuasits.