Ridemalibu Motorcycle Rentals & Tours – Los Angeles CA
  1. Ciao Guest - You’ve landed at the ultimate Guzzi site. In SoCal? See the SERVICE tab above for the best in service, tires, tuning and installation of our products or custom work. NEW FORUM REGISTRATIONS REQUIRE EMAIL ACTIVATION - CHECK YOUR SPAM FOLDER. ALWAYS TRY A SEARCH BEFORE STARTING A NEW TOPIC - Most questions you may have are already answered on the Forum with FACTS, NOT OPINIONS. PLEASE DON'T BE A DRIVE-BY POSTER: As a common courtesy, check back if you are posting elsewhere on the web. Note there's decades of Guzzi hands-on experienced help on this site, all whom give endless amounts of their time for free; BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL! There is zero tolerance on personal attacks and off-site links to other Forums or competing products. Also be sure to click on the STORE link also above for our 600+ product inventory, including many of our 100% Made-in-house-USA GTM products and engine kits. We appreciate the consideration, understanding and your business... past and future. And if you haven't seen our MotoCycle (not) art, click on the BUILDS tab above to see our work at our sister business; GT MotoCycles®-- WE ARE ONLINE ONLY - NO PHONE CALLS MADE OR RECEIVED.

Alternator belt replacement

Discussion in 'Cal 1400 8V' started by John L, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. John L

    John L Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    86
    Location:
    South Australia
    Hi all, it's getting close to the time to replace the alternator belt (50,000km) has anyone done one of these yet and if so are any special tools required?
     
  2. Curt Russell

    Curt Russell Tuned and Synch'ed

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2016
    Messages:
    74
    Likes Received:
    59
    Location:
    Ca.
    Alternator belt? Do you mean the timing belt?
     
  3. Curt Russell

    Curt Russell Tuned and Synch'ed

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2016
    Messages:
    74
    Likes Received:
    59
    Location:
    Ca.
    Never mind my earlier comment John. I had no idea we even had an alternator belt. I see it now in my maintenance schedule. A first for me.
     
    John L likes this.
  4. PaulDavies

    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Messages:
    262
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    I haven't done it, but there is a belt tensioner tool (Part #020677Y) required according to the Service Station Manual see image below.

    C1400 Belt Tensioner.PNG
     
    John L likes this.
  5. Kevin.NZ

    Kevin.NZ Cruisin' Guzzisti

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    114
    Location:
    Howick, Auckland, New Zealand.
    Most people don't have that tool, to check the tension, twist the belt to 90 degrees. it should be quite firm.
     
    John L likes this.
  6. John L

    John L Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    86
    Location:
    South Australia
    Sorry everyone my laptop went down shortly after I posted that, thank for your replies. I've also found out that the factory service manual says to drop the engine to remove the cover, hopefully there is a short cut to get around that :(
     
  7. PaulDavies

    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Messages:
    262
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Yikes - let's hope so, otherwise I imagine that amounts to quite an expensive belt change if you have to book it in with a dealer.
     
  8. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    When it will be done, let us know how long it takes.
     
  9. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    I gess you just have to remove the fuel tank.
     
  10. V700Steve

    V700Steve High Miler GT di Razza Pura

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    327
    Location:
    Atlanta area, GA
    No shortcut, these are NOT the engineers from the 60-80's. It's made like a goldwing frame, it all comes off in front of the cover and on top. All the coolers, motor mount, etc, you need to access the alternator and surrounding area also. The consumer wanted all this junk on a motorcycle, now pay the wrench fixing it!! I'd love to see a shortcut, I've tried. 3+ hrs minimum if you have done a Cali before, if not GOOD LUCK.
    I copied the belt tool, easy if you have a welder & shop tools. Cost 20 bucks.
    If you are a patient wrench to do it yourself, it's not a bad way to spend an afternoon. PIA=yes , especially the lock bolt for adj.
     
    Eldo1400 and Didier like this.
  11. PaulDavies

    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Messages:
    262
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Awww... shit, and there's even more crap in front of the engine on Euro 4 bikes

    I guess this is Guzzi's way of leading you gently, step by step, towards a complete engine rebuild

    Step 3 of 10 - Alternator Belt replacement
    Step 4 of 10 - Cylinder head replacement
    Step 5 of 10 - Transmission removal and clutch replacement

    What is it they say....."Moto Guzzi: Making mechanics out of riders since 1921."

    Guess I'll pay a wrench for this job when it's time comes
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2019
    Eldo1400 and Didier like this.
  12. John L

    John L Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    86
    Location:
    South Australia
    I have booked it in to morrow with my local Guzzi guru mechanic, he says it is still a pain in the arse but he has done it before without removing the engine mounts. I will see what I can find out.
     
    PaulDavies likes this.
  13. stephenm

    stephenm Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2013
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    59
    I read on the Wildguzzi Forum that an owner in Phoenix had cut through the alternator cover to remove a broken belt, and then replace it. Apparently the cut was barely visible. I haven't studied the setup on my Touring, but as I close in on 50,000km, I will be studying this approach carefully.

    Stephen
     
  14. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    Let us know when it's done with pictures please.
     
  15. John L

    John L Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    86
    Location:
    South Australia
    Sorry guys no pictures, I had to drop the bike off before I went to work. He managed to replace it by undoing the cover and then cable-tying the cover to the frame. He says it doesn't leave much room to work with and is a complete bitch of a job but it saves having to actually get the cover out of the frame. He did some other work for me at the same time, total cost for labour was for 3 hours, the belt took approximately 2 hours. A good mechanic is worth his weight in gold.
     
    Eldo1400, PaulDavies and Didier like this.
  16. roadventure

    roadventure High Miler GT Famiglia

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2014
    Messages:
    955
    Likes Received:
    218
    Location:
    Millville, Delaware
    Wow, wish we had some Moto Guzzi service guys here in the U.S. :(
     
  17. V700Steve

    V700Steve High Miler GT di Razza Pura

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    Messages:
    919
    Likes Received:
    327
    Location:
    Atlanta area, GA
    There would be but Dealers don't pay us what we're worth so you get unfamiliar Techs.

    Don't be afraid to give your wrench a tip
     
    John L likes this.
  18. Smartleynz

    Smartleynz Tuned and Synch'ed

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2014
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    Taranaki New Zealand
    Interesting, has anyone gone passed the 50k mark and not done the job? If so what happened? Thanks
     
  19. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    I had a BMW, 2005 they had the same belt and I was replacing them every 50k . The belt was like new not crack nothing, it was probably good for another 50k. But would you take a chance....
     
  20. PaulDavies

    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Messages:
    262
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    ...and I bet it was a lot easier, cheaper and quicker to replace than the Guzzi. My wife had a 15 year old mini when she was a student 30 years ago and her alternator belt broke shortly after she moved into student digs. I replaced it for her and that was the start of a beautiful relationship that is still ongoing today (the wife, not the mini).

    Usually a broken alternator belt doesn't cause any damage, but leaves you running on battery for a while. If you're lucky you can make it home or somewhere safe, but in the middle of nowhere, don't count on it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2019
    Didier and John L like this.

Share This Page