APSN 002 on Norge and security code

[crownryal]

Hi all, I’m new to the forum and to guzzis, but I’ve been perusing all the threads prior to and since picking up a 2008 Norge with a no start condition. At present, the bike has no signs of life outside of a partially lit dash that initially displays code APSN 002 and then asks for the security code. I tried all manner of codes with no luck and even tried the service code. The dash lights up, but I don’t see how to get to the service menu to access the diagnostics. I was hoping to recode the keys and have her fired up. The battery is brand new and fully charged and the lights and fuel pump seem to work, but no crank and no start no matter what. I also don’t see a neutral light. The bike hasn’t run since 2012, so I’ll be going through all connections to clean and grease. Does anyone have any experience with the APSN 002 code?

 

[scottmastrocinque]

SEARCH function is your friend. Always do a search before starting a new topic. Most every topic you can think of has already been answered.

APSN 0002

I have been working on my 2007 Norge 1200. I'm - hopefully - in the end phase as things go back together. The fuel tank has been off & the pump out for a new fuel filter. The instrument panel has been disconnected for some time (a few weeks) New plugs (inner and outer) have been fitted New air...

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I’m sure you are sure but If I had a nickle for every time somebody wrote that a battery was new, (but it really wasn’t) I’d have a $100 in nickles.

What you are describing is directly related to electrical power.

You should also SEARCH for MPH Hard Start Relay. This is an absolute must do for the bikes from this period.

I am doing a dash repair (recover the code) for my 2007 Norge through Carmo in the Netherlands, (also a SEARCH) and you may be doing it too soon it seems.

You can remove the dashboard easily and try and start the bike with the dash removed. When you disengage the dash from the motorcycle, it removes the ignition interlock completely. Not practical for riding but very practical for testing.

1. Remove windshield by removing 4 screws securing it. Gently lift windshield off of the mounting posts.




2. Remove screws from front black cover plate to expose windshield mechanism.

3. Disconnect ABS switch in left side of black dash trim by looking up under left side of fairing and removing connector.



4. Remove screws from black dash trim visible from the side as if you were sitting on the bike. Do not attempt to remove black trim plate with dash mounted in it yet!




5. Gently pry open space at top of dash to view locking connector at the backside of the dash.



6. You must press that locking grey button on the connector and lift up the black lever which releases the connector. I have huge hands and I was able to wiggle my hand down there and use my fingertips to unlock the cable. DO NOT FORCE OR USE MUSCLE OF ANY KIND HERE!!!! The pins in the connector are super tiny and very fragile. It should easily come apart!







7. When the cable is fully removed from the back of the dash, you can gently remove the entire black dash trim panel and dash as a unit. Go slow, gentle, and one side at a time.










My dashboard is removed here ( 3 screws) because I packed it for shipment to Carmo.


8. With the dash removed, insert your key, turn on, wait 5 seconds and try and start the bike. Odds are, she cranks right over and starts.

Please report back here with the results.

 

[crownryal]

All I can say is..WOW. I’ve been a Ducati, MV, and Triumph guy for 30 years and have been on a corresponding amount of forums, but never received such a thorough response in such a short amount of time. I did spec out the battery and it’s squared away, but the wiring is brutally corroded. I started in on isolating different connectors last night, but didn’t think about pulling the dash to try and start it. Many thanks and I’ll make sure to update when I get the dash yanked. I’m sure it’s roached. The bike has less than 6k miles, but looks like it covered the last thousand at the bottom of the Mediterranean

 

[scottmastrocinque]

Thank you.

I have invested a great deal of time and energy here, providing various information and “How To” guides at GuzziTech.

It’s always a joy and pleasure to have a person acknowledge and express gratitude for help. You are most welcome!

Feel free to Private Message me if you need more help. I’ll give you my phone number to call if you need it.

Luckily, your timing happened to be perfect as I just took those photos yesterday as part of my “How To” guide for removing the dash and sending it to Carmo in Holland (The Netherlands) for repair.

 

[crownryal]

Your instructions were spot on. I was able to wriggle a long screwdriver behind the dash to depress the tab on the locking mechanism to help disengage the harness from the dash. I pulled the plugs, threw her on top gear and spun the rear wheel a few revolutions after soaking the cylinders with penetrating oil. I hooked up the battery and was able to engage the starter relay, but was met with a loud click and no spins of the engine. I bypassed the relay and it kicked over and had good compression, as well as spark…and I’m certain decade old fuel is the issue now. It wouldn’t fire, but did turn over and spin freely. I’m going to drain the tank, search the MPH harness mod, and figure out how much the code recovery runs. I’ll definitely shoot you a a PM for further info. Thanks again

 

[Moto-Uno]

"Scott" is that container supplied by Carmo ? Peter

 

[crownryal]

As of ten minutes ago, she was up and running. The gas is suspect, but enough to get it fired up and idling. I plugged in the dash while it was running and it immediately shut down and showed the same code. I’ll be looking for a replacement dash or trying the carmo repair to get things dialed in. Thanks again for the very concise advice

 

[scottmastrocinque]

Thank You Very Much!

You are most welcome!

No Peter. It’s from Harbor Freight Tools.

It’s their version of Pelican cases. Very high quality at very cheap prices.

Given that this dash is worth its weight in enriched plutonium, and just as rare, it seemed a very practical and prudent shipping container given the “attentive care” package movers exhibit in their jobs nowadays, for the trip to Holland and back to the USA.