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Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by tibor, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. tibor

    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Good morning all,
    I'm a 2014 V7 owner. Yesterday my bike died while driving in the NYC. Started having some problems a few days ago where the the bike just stalled and died. No lights went on. I shut her off and everything started right back up. Well yesterday after not driving a couple of days , the bike started up no problem and was running well. After stopping and hanging out few hours. I started her back up and after a few minutes of riding she stopped. I got her going again but finally she died. It would not run for more than a few seconds before dying. I got her back home after a 250 dollar tow. I'm thinking alternator or voltage regulator. If anyone has any advice for me on what the problem is and a possible cure, it would really be appreciated.
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    Tibor
     
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    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    When the bike dies, do any of the electrical features still work? e.g, turn signals, head light, brake light, and so on. Have you replaced the fuel filter?
     
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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    None of the electrical features work. I'm not sure if the fuel filter was changed with my last tune-up.
     
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    Carlos Rivera Just got it firing!

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    Hey, fellow rider from NYC here!(though i'm away from home on orders) I don't have enough experience with these Guzzis to give you a definitive answer but the basics would be to first Check battery voltage and ensure good battery connections.

    Since you said none of your electronics work then I can't imagine it being your fuel filter. I'm sure more experienced people will chime in.
     
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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Thanks. I agree. I think it may be the regulator/rectifier (voltage regulator)
     
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    you checked the ignition switch for contact problems? I faced petty much the the same issue two weeks ago. Bike died all of the sudden, no lights in the dashboard anymore when switching it on.
    After turning the ignition on and off a couple of times I realized the switch being the issue. I dismantled it and pump in a good shot of contact spray and that seemed to help the situation. No pb anymore ever since.
    Worth checking this simple thing before spending more effort and money
    cheers
     
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    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    OK, if all electrical is dead, It isn't the fuel filter and probably not the alternator or regulator/rectifier. With key on and engine off you should have electrical function of turn signals and such. Now we need to look for a common spot for the interruption to take place. Use The schematic for your bike and a digital volt meter or a test light to verify electrical power is going where it should. Also this thread may help https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/troubleshooting-circuits.3001/ Likely suspects are the ignition switch, fuses and fuse holder along with any connector. Be sure to clean and tighten battery connections and ground before starting. That alone may solve your problem.
     
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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Thanks very much for your advice. It'll be a huge relief if it's the just the ignition switch or the ground. Best regards, Tibor
     
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    any auto parts store can do a load test on the battery. that's the first step. if bad get a new one, charge it fully on a proper charger before you start the bike. if it fires right up check the output of the alternator. you might have a defective one. search here for the info. if so is it still in the 2 year warranty? if yes call the dealer. if it's not go to the store here and get the regulator kit.
    if the battery is ok then start down the above lists.
     
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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    How do I remove the ignition switch?
     
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    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    With tools. If it isn't covered in the maintenance manual, a look at the parts manual should give you an idea. If you are beginning to feel this is above your skill level, then you may want to take it to a shop.
     
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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    FullSizeRender-2.jpg FullSizeRender.jpg before trying to remove the the ignition switch I noticed this loose cable. Can anyone tell me where it connects to if anywhere and c an this be the source of my problem???
     
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    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Could be a connector for a Tom Tom GPS by the look of it. Not the source of your problem.
     
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    Bill Hagan GT Reference GT Famiglia

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    Yup. On both counts.

    Bill
     
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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Thanks
     
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    Tibor,

    look at the below drawing. #8 houses the electrical ignition switch and can easily be removed from the above mechanical key lock.
    No need to remove the key lock itself.
    #8 being held by two little Phillips screws. Bid hard to get there with a screw driver but I managed to free #8 after a while.
    Disconnect #8 cable (connector underneath the fuel tank) and then you can play with it off the bike and test the switch function.
    Again, I managed to tap a little tube inside the plastic cap of #8 switch, swampt it with contact spray and let it react overnight.
    That eventually fixed the issue.

    Note: I have a V7 Type I European model, not sure if ignition switch and cabling was altered with Type II and III.

    Hope that helps

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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Thanks very much Joerg. I found it yesterday in the workshop manual.Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated.
     
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    tibor Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    I have the V7 Type1 also.
     

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