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Brake recall

Discussion in 'Cal 1400 8V' started by john zibell, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. john zibell

    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    I came across this today. ultimatemotorcycling.com/2019/08/14/moto-guzzi-and-aprilia-recalls-due-to-unexpected-braking-issues/

    Piaggio Group Announces Moto Guzzi and Aprilia Recalls on Unexpected Slowing, Stopping problem

    Piaggio Group Americas. Inc.has recalled various Moto Guzzi and Aprilia motorcycles due to braking issues that will cause the bikes to unexpectedly slow down or stop.

    Included in the recall are the following models:
    • 2016-2018 Moto Guzzi Audace 1400 and Eldorado 1400
    • 2017-2018 Moto Guzzi California 1400
    • 2017 Moto Guzzi MGX-21 Bagger
    Piaggio says up to 1,701 motorcycles are affected by the recall.

    The recall was triggered due to a problem with the front brake master cylinder that may cause the front brake drag or apply, causing the motorcycle to unexpectedly slow down or stop completely without activating the rear brake light.

    The defect notice describes the cause of the problem this way, “The front brake master cylinder may not have sufficient ineffective lever stroke (ineffective stroke = initial part of the lever stroke which does not cause braking effect).”

    It goes on to describe the warning symptoms that may indicate the problem: “If the vehicle is stopped it will be difficult to move by hand with the gearbox in the neutral position. If the vehicle is running it will progressively slow down, or will require opening the throttle to maintain speed.”

    Piaggio will notify owners, and dealers will inspect, and if necessary, replace the front brake master cylinder free of charge. The recall is expected to begin August 13, 2019. Owners may contact Piaggio customer service at 1-212-380-4433. Piaggio’s number for this recall is PA2ZZQ1904.

    Owners affected by the Moto Guzzi and Aprilia recalls may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov . The NHTSA campaign number is 19V561000.
     
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    whatthe Just got it firing! GT Contributor

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    thank you for the info
     
  3. sir fred

    sir fred Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    This is what I have been experiencing with my rear brake on my 2015 Custom.
     
  4. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I hope it will be fixed soon.
     
  5. Craig C

    Craig C Just got it firing! GT Famiglia

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    I got this notification in the mail, too. The front brake lever feel on my Audace seems like it has too much freeplay :((at least as compared to my previously owned V11Sport). Is this an artifact of the ABS system?

    I experienced this behavior 1st hand on my Centauro many years ago after trying to improve the feeling on the front brakes. I removed the epoxy on the threaded adjuster and screwed it in one "click"...it improved feel, but also did not allow the heated fluid to escape back to the master cylinder when the lever was released fully. Jeez...I guess that's why the epoxy was there:D...

    I wonder if this is the tradeoff to have "stylish" master cylinders? I'd rather just replace them for more responsive units intended for more Sporty models...
     
  6. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I never got this notification in the mail and I ask my dealer to have the bike fixed and he said there is no replacement parts yet.
     
  7. Motor2172

    Motor2172 Just got it firing!

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    Does anyone know how the dealer tests for the problem? Also my dealer said the following. “If you bring it in and it needs a new master cylinder you cannot take the motorcycle with you.” Yes they actually said that.
     
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    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    That's because the recall is related to a key safety component (the brakes) If there's a fault and they let you ride it away, they would be negligent.
     
  9. Motor2172

    Motor2172 Just got it firing!

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    I understand the liability issue. It just struck me funny in a Big Brother kind of way.
     
  10. anmagu

    anmagu Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Got my Audace carbon checked last week. Took around 15 mins.
    I guess at least 95% of the bikes won't have any problems, but since it's a safety issue they're obliged to check all the bikes...
     
  11. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    What year is your bike?
     
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    anmagu Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    2018.
     
  13. Didier

    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    2017 I hope I don't get a recall
     
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    Motor2172 Just got it firing!

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    What was the procedure to check the brakes?
     
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    sir fred Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    What did they do?
     
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    Buttered Biskit Just got it firing!

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    that what I thought. I got notice in the mail also. No problems with my Audace so I'm just gonna wait until I need service.
     
  17. anmagu

    anmagu Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Can't tell exactly. He just said it was short check and my bike was fine. That was good enough for me.
     
  18. CCosby

    CCosby Just got it firing!

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    My 2016 Audace passed last weekend. Took maybe an hour or hour and a half from the time I pulled in. Not sure as I just sat down at a table they have and read a book. No clue what they did to actually test it, most of the time was probability them waiting for an open bay to pull it into.
     
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    Didier Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    They don't know what to do, just like my dealer.
     
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    Mrmerlin Tuned and Synch'ed

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    My Eldorado passed muster, the tech says they take off the RF caliper put a wedge into the pads area then a feeler gauge into the back of the MC piston if the wedge pulls free after the MC feeler gauge is removed then the system is good, took about 45 mins
     

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