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CARC Output seal leak

Try Skf;
61917 -- 1010021917
Primary Bearing Category Radial Ball Bearing
Type Conrad / Deep Groove
Design Units Metric
Bore 3.3465 inch
Outside Diameter 4.7244 inch
Notes Deep groove ball bearings, single row

should be availiable from any good bearing supplier. The seal I asume isa standard vee seal, rubber encased metal witha spring shape retainer, also freely availiable.
 
Bearimg Services Limited (BSL) are the leaders in the UK, main depot is Halesowem , Brum, but have depots around the UK.
If you have trouble call me, no probs.
 
Just another data point: At our shop (Moto Intl. in Seattle), we've seen several seals go on 30,000-ish mile bikes on which the bearing was just fine.
 
If you buy the 61917 2rs 0r zz they are sealed bearings. Maybe worth a try for longer life. Remember to fill the seal, (85x110x10) with grease, and pop out the inner seal of the bearingto allow oil into the bearing. The outer seal on the bearing is left to double up. We do it on industrial gearboxes all the time.
 
Greg thanks for a dealers opinion, it is what happened to my bike. We need some helpful US dealers here in the UK. Our dealers are to expensive. The main crank output seal is similar to the carc output seal. I think my crank seal is leaking oil. The price from a London dealer to replace
 
Gary and Loftyjohn
Thanks indeed for the data etc.
do have BSL here in Bury (BSE)
At least i know what to look for now.

Hells Bells thanks for the Italiano Rusky tie up photo.
I can see the italian won. bigger lump of metal. lol.

Nel i hope things get sorted allroight.

Cheers
Steve
BSE - anglo saxon country
 
Greg Field wrote:
Just another data point: At our shop (Moto Intl. in Seattle), we've seen several seals go on 30,000-ish mile bikes on which the bearing was just fine.

Good bit of info Greg, thanks. Course, if you see this leaking I assume you must check the bearing just to be sure for both safety & expense reasons, but reassuring to know that a leak coming from CARC is not necessarily a sign of bad bearing.
 
Thanks Gary for that bearing information.
First time I have been back in 6 weeks since I started this thread.
After replacing my seal the new one is not leaking yet. I have done about 1500 miles. Have checked for play every week with wheel on centre stand but can feel nothing. Im hoping this is a seal problem and nothing more.

Thanks to Greg Field and that sounds reassuring,
Just another data point: At our shop (Moto Intl. in Seattle), we've seen several
seals go on 30,000-ish mile bikes on which the bearing was just fine.

Monitoring the thread in case some members have more information in time.
Nigel
 
The seal on my 05 Breva leaked a couple of thousand mile ago so i changed it and checked for play in the bearing, all good.
A couple of days back i checked again and there is a gnats todger of play while rocking from top to bottom, so i'm hunting round for a new bearing and seal too!
Bikes done 20K miles and the black dust seal is fitted.
 
Yes, its a shame but i'll be doing the job myself so ill know its been done properly, with a decent bearing.
For peace of mind thats got to be worth it. :)
 
Rob, the bearing shouldn't be hard to find. Todd posted the # up a while back. I've got one in my spares stock I can hunt it out for you tomorrow if you want. Much cheaper than the preposterously priced Guzzi seal is the BMW one which is 1mm deeper but works fine.

I did do a write-up on CARC disassembley and bearing replacement once but I'll be buggered if I can remember where it was. You want I do it again or are you happy to wing it? It isn't a big job but it DOES require a bit of care.

Pete
 
Thanks Pete, I've had a look for it but couldn't find it so if you could put it up again i'd be grateful.
A few phone calls to bearing suppliers has got me a SKF bearing for
 
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