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Evap removal from V7III

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by Godfrey, Oct 17, 2017.

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    Lol, I just read that correctly !

    that and an oily , musty smell resulted in my wife referring to the 1990 Miata I purchased in 2008 as “ that stinky little car”
    That car thought her how to pack Light - 8 days & 4000 km in what amounted to a large hand bag !
     
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    aproud1 Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Garages should have a particular smell IMO.

    I don't even think I could fit myself in a Miata let alone my stuff for 8 days. Sounds like quite an adventure.
     
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    Simon Bisson Just got it firing!

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    My bike is a UK spec 2013 V7 Special. I’ve looked at the parts manual and I can see no mention of a “tip valve”. Can somebody please confirm that this actually the check valve in the tube from the tank to the evap canister? If not what and where is it? Thanks.
     
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    I was looking under the bike last night and on mine ( V7 III ) that valve is on the tube down by the gearshift on the way to the canister.
    On mine The tubes are different diameters, small one comes down from the tank, larger one goes back up to the throttlebody
     
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    Simon Bisson Just got it firing!

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    So it is in the tube from tank to canister?
     
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    Simon Bisson Just got it firing!

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    So part 7 on this diagram? (2013 V7 Special)

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    Yes, ( sorry I should have added more details ) looking at the diagram above the 2013’s didn’t have one !
     
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    Simon Bisson Just got it firing!

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    I’m just trying to confirm what people are talking about, then I can worry about if my bike has one!
     
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    Any relation to Paul ? ( a local friend of mine ;) )
    The 2017 have the return line going in on top ?
     
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    subin Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    According to the spare parts list for a 2013 V7 that I found online, the evap canister and the related parts are marked "for USA model".
    So, if yours is UK spec, then it should not have them.
     
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    Simon Bisson Just got it firing!

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    Yes that’s my understanding. I’m just trying to identify which part a “tip valve” is. Nobody seems to know.
     
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    The part very clearly identified in the second post of this thread? I don't understand your question otherwise. Did you look at the top of this thread at all? Just curious.
    Evap system earlier this decade were mostly a "North America" requirement. I believe since 2016 or 17 that Guzzi now delivers a global bike with all emission requirements met.
     
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    subin Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Yes, it is part 7 that you have already pointed out.
     
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    That is the location of where it would be. He's saying on his bike it's not there. Read my words above.
     
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    Ah, the situations one finds oneself in when purchasing a used bike.
    Especially when they buy the bike before getting on forums like this and getting oneself educated.

    I have a 2014 V7 stone, with a mostly intact EVAP system except when replacing the fuel tank filter today I noticed the aft vent line is open to the atmosphere. It is literally just dangling back beside the rear tire. Some research revealed this aft vent line is supposed to go down to the evap canister.

    I guess I am unsure of whether to...
    A) replace this vent hose and hope the rest of the EVAP system works properly (check valves, etc) on a six-year old bike. Do I go ahead and replace the check valves?

    or

    B) Do the above mentioned "EVAPectomy" procedure. I don't like the notion of spilled fuel or fuel smells in my garage, if that is a factor.
     
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    Yes do it! And get the SAS block off kit as well. I've completed both the Cat removal, SAS block off and added the 2 n 1 brushed exhaust. The block fires up each and every time. No change in gas mileage. Pulls solid thru gears. And with the shorter 2 n 1 exhaust it's a wee bit louder. The HD guys are always impressed with it's throatiness. No issue with smell of gas. My lawnmower is far worse.
     
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    Is the evap canister still attached ?
    If not you haven’t really got much choice about what to do with it...
     
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    I just bought a 2020 Stone S model but it is stored by dealer until March or April so I cannot inspect it. Does my bike have the Carbon canister? Your post suggests it does not, but just checking because I would like to get a Stein Dinse work stand and want to know if this canister will need to be relocated or removed as in this thread. Thanks
     
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    I would Imagine it does, but I don’t think you could relocate it ?
    Unless you want to put some relatively serious effort into it.
     
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    It will have one, yes. Only the 2016 model had it on top of the motor. Most all center-stand manufacturers accommodate for the canister with a bracket, at least the ones I sell and have dealt with. Appreciate the business on the STORE link above.
     

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