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Finally, my own Griso

Discussion in 'Griso-Bella Chat & Tech' started by hs3000, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. hs3000

    hs3000 Just got it firing!

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    Hi all,

    I've been lurking for quite a while now. Recently I have been riding an F800S. While it is a great
    bike, it just didn't inspire me. I stumbled upon a 2007 Griso locally, took a quick
    test ride and promptly made an offer. Heard back a few days later and it is now in my garage!

    The bike currently has the Mistral exhaust with no baffle. It is too loud( IMO). It is also not running as well as I think it should be. Tons of popping on decel and uneven idle, snatchy throttle and acts like it wants to stall when I shut the throttle. The PO attempted to paint the tank matte black, looks terrible. I contacted MG Cycle for a baffle, they are out of stock but hopefully will be in soon.

    All that said, the ridiculous grin this bike produces when I twist the throttle is just beyond belief.
     
  2. Birch

    Birch Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Tail tidy too!! Looks great. Doesn't even look like you have liver spots on the headers!!!

    Even with the stock pipe, I get occasional popping on deceleration. I'm looking for a replacement can for my 1100, one that won't require a remap. Hope adding the db killer smooths thing out for you.
     
  3. figaro

    figaro Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Hope you enjoy the Griso, they are great bikes, very much underrated I think, and fabulous looking machines. Like all Guzzi they take a while to get dialled in to, but perseverance pays off.

    Actually, I'm only posting to find out what you thought of the F800. I'm very tempted to buy one myself, and would be interested to read your remarks.
     
  4. wittangamo

    wittangamo Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Very nice. A db killer will help, and most of the symptoms you mention can be improved with proper setup. Taking up any slack in the throttle cables, setting the valves and TPS, balancing the throttle bodies, etc, will smooth out the idle and eliminate surging. As Birch says, some popping is normal, you just notice it more with a straight pipe.

    A Griso is a guaranteed smile producer. Enjoy.

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  5. GTM®

    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Congrats on the G11!

    Tuning is very important on most all Guzzi, and the most important things require electronics. I offer the Centurion-S Kit if you are a DIY'er; https://www.guzzitech.com/store/produc ... pathway-11

    Otherwise, even bone stock, the bike will respond very well to fuel modification. You can read up on it here; https://www.guzzitech.com/forum/235/2686

    Also, please post your info in the Registry thread; https://www.guzzitech.com/forum/163/11533

    Welcome to the Famiglia, and hope you post often.

    Any questions or help, feel free to mail me direct; Todd at GuzziTech.com
     
  6. hs3000

    hs3000 Just got it firing!

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    Thanks for all the info and welcomes!

    After reading as much as I could, it seems that setup and personalization are absolutely key as wittangamo mentioned. Also read that the bike 'likes' a certain amount of restriction in the exhaust which is why I am getting the baffle.

    I bought the bike from a Guzzi shop that had it on consignment. Full records and a recently completed service from the original owner that included TPS and balancing, etc. Unfortunately, the PO didn't ride it much, 2900 miles! Needs a good cleaning, and he tried to spray can matte black over the original tank. This weekend I hope to get it cleaned up, adjust throttle cables, set up the suspension and look for new tires, the originals are squared off pretty badly.

    Todd, thanks for the links. I was looking at the exhausts you have listed and they are gorgeous. If I don't get on with the Mistral I may be giving you a shout. I will also add my info to the registry soon.

    All said, and as much work as I have ahead of me, I am really liking this bike so far. Hopefully it only gets better!
     
  7. hs3000

    hs3000 Just got it firing!

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    I have an 07 F800S, I bought it when I was planning to do a lot of touring and I thought it would be a good platform. The bike is light, good power, handles very well, the ABS works great and has saved me more than once. Gets 60mpg on the highway and except for a valve cover leak and a minor recall, has been 100% reliable.

    Unfortunately, shortly after I bought it personal circumstances changed and I haven't done any long distance riding. And while it does everything very well, I am much more drawn to naked bikes that have a bit more character.
    Overall I would recommend it, just not for me. If I continue liking the Griso it will be up for sale shortly.
     
  8. figaro

    figaro Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Thanks for that. They seem like a great compromise bike, and I like the look of the S model. While I love the Le Mans, I don't think it's the right bike for a 2000+ mile thrash round Europe. Something like the F800 would fit the bill nicely.
     
  9. Brutto

    Brutto Just got it firing!

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    Congratulations! I hope it serves you well.
     
  10. GBrag

    GBrag Just got it firing!

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    You can probably count on the DB killer fixing a whole lot of what ails your Gris. My O9 came with a MG Termi pipe with the db killer removed. Throttle response was AWFUL and the popping was more than annoying. Some boneheads might say it is cool, but alas, the bonehead who pulled mine out probably didn't know that performance and power actually get WORSE with the db Killer removed despite all the ruckus. (I don't mind "loud", in fact was a bit worried the db Killer, when i got one, would make it too quiet ... it didn't).

    Before the db Killer I was talking remaps and all kinds of adjustments ... after? The beast has been tamed. Fuel mileage improved dramatically, like an honest 20+%. Roll-on and roll of, and low speed became just fantastic. I don' t even have the 68 Mapping, and will probably do that in the spring.

    And yes, the Griso is an incredibly "different" bike, in most ways better, in some ways quirky ... but on a scale of "different"... I call it perfect! A) It is NOT generic at all. It always stands out! B) While different, it stands out in a head-turning good way, beautiful. Not head turning stupid. There are no bad angles (other then the Termi pipe covers a bit too much of the open wheel.) C) It is powerful and fast. No, not superbike fast ... but so what? The power is ALWAYS there, and knowing that is really cool. It the 50 to 90 roll-on is where is shows it guts. And isn't that also perfect? D) It sounds different and awesome. NEVER head a bad comment, heard MANY MANY great comments ... also about looks ... did I say "it is not generic" enough? E) The fit and finish are always a topic for discussion by admirers! Go Guzzi.

    Rock on Gris owners ... we have found pearls! (did I say "It is not generic" enough times? But not silly non-generic!)
    GBrag
     
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  11. hs3000

    hs3000 Just got it firing!

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    I agree GBrag,

    The Griso to me is, how should I say...not generic. (haha).
    Seriously though you are correct. Something about this bike just really resonates.
    The torque is amazing, albeit quite loud without the baffle. I went for a ~200 mile ride
    yesterday and even at 75mph on the highway the exhaust note was quite noticeable and tiresome. I am deciding on waiting to make any changes (carbon canister delete, fueling) since it seems to be related to some of the idling issues or just waiting for MG Cycle to get the baffle in stock.

    The other issue is sorting the suspension and acquiring some new tires. The current are starting to square off, but they don't seem bad enough to make the bike feel as sketchy as it does in corners. I'm guessing the PO changed the susp. settings but it is difficult to get sag numbers without a proper stand.

    Despite the initial challenges(or in spite of), it is a bike that I find myself sneaking out to the garage to look at. So yes, you could say it is perfect!
     
  12. wittangamo

    wittangamo Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Suspension: There's a detailed suspension settings thread elsewhere in this forum, but if you can't easily set sag, there are "competition" settings in the owner's manual that make a good starting point.

    Tires: You'll get as many suggestions as there are brands, but no one has anything bad to say about Michelin Pilot Road 3 (except that they aren't cheap.) Mileage is good, handling is excellent wet or dry.
     
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    MJPTexas Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    My '06 has the same exhaust with no DB killer. Although a tad loud, still quieter than the neighbor's Harley. :D

    I had my ECU re-flashed. Made a big difference and cured several annoying problems. I'd highly recommend it.
     
  14. hs3000

    hs3000 Just got it firing!

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    It actually sounds pretty cool, but I leave the house early, live in the city and get along with my neighbors, so...

    For now I want to see how it runs with the much needed baffle. In the future I may look into addressing the fueling.

    Regarding the suspension, can someone verify that these forks are far from stock?
    This is how it was setup when I bought it. According to the manual and the threads I have read, the forks don't seem to be set anywhere close to what is stock. Any suggestions are appreciated. I'm about 165lbs with gear.
     
  15. DungeonMaster

    DungeonMaster Just got it firing!

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    I just bought a 2007 Griso that only had 5700 miles on it.
    I took it to a mechanic that I once worked with (back in 2000)
    and he did a tune up.

    I had him check the drive shaft splines for grease.
    There was NONE.
    Same issue with a Stelvio he had in the shop at the same time.

    NO GREASE on the drive shaft.

    Get it checked.

    DungeonMaster
     
  16. Buster1

    Buster1 Just got it firing!

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    3 rings above the clamp was the stock setting on mine. Just like in your pic.

    Randy
     
  17. hs3000

    hs3000 Just got it firing!

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    I was referring to the height of the fork leg. According to the service manual, etc. there should be 4 rings above the triple clamp. Mine, only two.

    Can anyone have a look and let me know if the book is wrong or if my forks have been moved? TIA


    Dungeonmaster, thanks for the tip. Looks like I am going to have quite a bit of setup and maintenance checks to do. Hoping it can wait till this winter, when I can take my time and not miss any riding time.
     
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    GuzziMoto GT Reference GT Contributor

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    And he was answering your question from what I read.
    And to throw mine in there too, mine was delivered from the dealer the same as yours as well. I have added a little more preload to get my sag right. I have read of plenty of people dropping the front end (raising the tubes in the triples so that more lines show above the clamps) but I have not done so.
    I do not know what the manual or the build instructions for the dealers say to do. I don't know what the stock settings are, either. I do know that the stock settings are not of much use and I can't see worrying about what they are. Rather, I would adjust from where you are at until it is right for you.
     
  19. hs3000

    hs3000 Just got it firing!

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    I took everyone's advice and set up the suspension per the thread on this forum. Amazing difference in handling. It no longer feels like it wants to fall into a corner. Overall an incredible improvement. I really appreciate all the advice and suggestions. Thanks to all those that contribute, what a great forum. Now I'm gonna go ride!
     

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