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GTM ECU V7 & V9 Flash Tool

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by GTM®, Jul 31, 2015.

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    They are, and in many places the map is leaner (take guessing out of the equation). Unless there is a massive fueling delivery failure (clogged injectors mostly), the cat-cons are a non-issue.
     
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    Luca Alessandro Just got it firing!

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    Would I still be able to get my bike serviced and inspected (I'm from NYC) if I have done an EVAP and SAS delete?
     
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    Depends on who and how in depth the inspection is. A dealer might know, all others would not.
     
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    What Bike - How Old ?
    New Bike they might Whine -
    Old Bike ( Out of Warranty ) they would probably not care.
    ( Except - if they are bound by Law to ensure that the bike meets Emissions regulations as delivered from the Manufacturer )
    Like a shop in California maybe ?

    Don
    PS: I'm just a Rider, like you - I know Nothing John SNOW !
     
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    Luca Alessandro Just got it firing!

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    Thank you for the reply! I have an '86 V65C handed down from my father but I have no intention of modding that at all.

    I will be purchasing a new V7 III Stone (hopefully S or Night Pack) and am considering the ECU re-flash and recommended EVAP and SAS deletes.

    Loading the original ECU spec before a dealer visit should be no problem but I wouldn't want to replace the EVAP and SAS every time I look to service my bike. I'm guessing no one here is having to do that though.

    If so, would it be worth me learning how to service the bike myself? I've done oil changes on my V65C myself but never transmission or fork oil.
     
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    This ‘ol chesnut... the funny irony is that CA is one of the easiest states. Once it leaves the showroom floor, it never gets looked at ever again, and I mean ever... not even when it changes ownership, etc. no safety inspections, nothing. Period
    As to emissions; All bikes are global bikes. The 49-state bike thing died ~20 years ago now.
     
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    So what’s the big panic *We* keep hearing about, if you have after market anything under the hood, that’s not @@@@ compliant ?
    Does it only apply to automobiles?
    And
    I wasn’t referring to your shop as one who ensures state emission compliance!
     
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    I am only beginning to learn about the registration requirements of motorcycles, but with automobiles it varies widely from state to state, and even county to county within states. Obviously this is within the US.

    Where I live, they don't do emissions testing. In the county I just moved from, they do with automobiles and it involves checking the OBDII system for faults as well as an actual running exhaust test for hydrocarbons or whatever they test for. I have never heard of them hooking up to a motorcycle's OBD system or testing the exhaust, and was curious enough to look and many regions specifically exempt motorcycles.

    So, best I could tell you would be to look up the specifics to your individual location.

    Even still, I doubt anyone but a dealership's service department could tell if a bike had an aftermarket ECU map. An emissions testing station would most likely only be able to pull fault codes. They might notice an altered EVAP system and they might be savvy enough to know if a particular exhaust was compliant. Fortunately for me, I live in an area where there is no specific noise laws for motorcycles other than "it has to have a muffler" and there is no emissions testing.
     
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    All of those types of laws have been on the books for quite some time. They keep one up-ing them by adding new language and attaching production years. All 4-wheeled vehicles are emission tested, but shockingly still zero types of inspections (of any kind) on 2-wheelers as noted on previously. Sadly it seems that this gearhead state will fall by way of new electric vehicle sales only on the near horizon... but that won't keep all of the existing vehicles and custom builders off the road any time soon. As to gas prices, I shudder at the thought... Mad Max comes to mind. Hopefully I'll not live to see it.
    I knew you weren't referring to my shop specifically, but my statement was a blanket one, that covers dealers can't touch them, but they can't say anything if they arrive and leave modified. Again, no types of "legal control" are in place once the bike rolls off the floor new.
     
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    So if I move out there once the masses leave , I won’t get hassled about the Honda’s exhaust or mods !!
    Yeeee Hawww :rofl:
     
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    hey there I’m looking to buy a v7 III, re-flash the ECU, delete the EVAP and replace SAS with block off kit. No plans to change mufflers yet, anyone do the same? Can you describe how your bike feels/sounds with the stock muffler?
     
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    Personally , I described the sound as “Sewing machine” like to my friends.
    What you want from a bike is hugely personal, so what turns ones crank might not do it for another...
    I really didn’t want to spend too much money on a bike I just bought, BUT !

    I listened to quite a few pipes online, but when I heard these :

    I had to have them.
    In conjunction with the tune and SAS removal ( to get rid of the popping - although i was starting to like it) changed the character of the bike immensely !

    Oh last the stock pipes are HUGE - IMHO... the difference between the originals and these was staggering SO much smaller !
     
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    che bel suono! I may have to consider swapping one out myself!
     
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    Right now I have stock exhaust with a remap (for stock exhaust). The stock exhaust is very quiet, but I don't dislike the sound. My bike definitely runs better with the remap; it was not a night and day difference when I first tried it after the remap, but after a good long test ride I just kind of noticed at some point that my bike was running smooth as silk and that I really liked the way it was behaving now.

    So, a subtle but definite improvement I would say. Mine is a 2014 V7 but I would imagine the benefits carry over to newer models too.

    I'm kind of leaning towards the GTM GP Megs exhaust for my bike.
     
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    yeah that sounds great. I love the OG Guzzi sound from my dads old bike (stock everything).

    For starters, I’d like to remap and pull best performance out of the engine with the stock pipe then I’ll probably switch it if I feel like I want that extra umph. Cant wait!
     
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    Does it make a difference if I EVAP/SAS delete before loading the new map?
     
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    I’m sure it makes some difference, but the big change comes after getting it to flow better.

    Both the evap and SAS are feeding / pulling air in/out of the system ( through the air box) adding more variables to the equation.
    If you remove those variable you get a more predictable system .
    At least that’s the way I think about it.

    Don
    Armchair Wrench
    ( I will be corrected if I’m off on my perspective. )
     
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