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Discussion in 'Loop & Tonti' started by fossilrder, Nov 25, 2019.

  1. fossilrder

    fossilrder Just got it firing!

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    Hey Guys, Steve here. My friend just bought an old Guzzi that I had found and he is starting to get it up and going. In order to get it titled, he needs to identify exactly what it is, since it came without a title. The frame # is 1317 and the motor # is 1427. The decals on the side covers say "V7 Ambassador". I don't remember seeing this before since most I have seen are either a V7 OR an Ambassador. I did a little digging and,from what I have found so far, it appears this is probably a 1967 or possibly 1968 year model. Was this maybe a transition year between the V7 and the Ambassador? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve (Fossil)
     
  2. john zibell

    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    I'm not sure when the Ambassador production began, but 1971 is the last model year. It is a 750cc bike with the 4 speed gearbox. 1972 began the Eldorado run. As for the exact year of manufacture, it should be on the ID plate on the head stock. It looks like it had an engine change as in that era the frame and engine number matched from the factory. see https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/...ycles/1971-moto-guzzi-ambassador-zmmz15jfzbla
     
  3. V700Steve

    V700Steve High Miler GT Contributor

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  4. Amboman

    Amboman Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    What your friend has by the numbers is a V700 and should be titled as a 1967. It's very rare for V700 engine and frame numbers to match. The "transition" year from V700 to Ambassador was 1969.

    Ambassador numbers were all 5 digit, the earliest 1969s having an "A" prefix. 1972 was the last "model year" for the Ambassador, with those having been built in Oct. '71.

    http://thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_loopframe_loop_list.php
     
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    Blaufeld Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Interesting bike!
     
  6. V700Steve

    V700Steve High Miler GT Contributor

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    I started getting into 700's after buying a customers in 92. I liked it better than the 750 or 850 Loops. No one wanted the stuff for restorations, they all wanted updated stuff w/more pleasant looking tank. They go real slow alot better, more nimble than later Loops. I saw plenty for sale in Chi area, so I bought a few more than the one I had. I ride 1, 2 are totally apart on shelves, got 1 more cast sleeved cyl matched to pistons. Maybe someday they'll get done, seems no one still wants the 1st ones. At least I haven't parted them out. I got rid of the junk SSI carbs years ago, even w/accel pump kit was still substandard. I like my 67, not restored it just looks like an old bike, well aged.
     
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  7. Amboman

    Amboman Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Bought my '69 for $500 two years ago and last Winter rebuilt the drivetrain, left the cosmetics pretty much as is and made a few upgrades. For 2019 it was my "do all" bike - fairing and trunk on it was my touring bike, stripped down it was my "adventure" bike - cruising forest roads, dirt roads, gravel roads whatever. Now it's in "Winter mode" - fairing and lowers for those cold days.

    Wandering around in Michaux St. Forest, PA.

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    Headed home from the Virginia Guzzi Rally.
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  8. fossilrder

    fossilrder Just got it firing!

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    Once again, thanks for the input. I believe the general thought here, that this must be a '67 V7, is correct. But, after looking at tons of photos, I am still confused that a '67 year model would have "Ambassador" on the side covers (which seem to be original to this bike) when the Ambassador didn't actually hit the market until '69 (or maybe late '68). I have also noticed, though, that there are several different V7 logos, some with the "Ambassador" and some without. All a bit confusing? But, anyway, I have passed on to my buddy that he should plan on titling it as a '67 V7. If anyone can add to this, I will keep checking for more ideas. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Steve
     
  9. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Side covers on that vintage and model have been swapped on most every bike by now. It is highly suspect that they wold be the original ones unless you had a verifiable provenance like a 1 owner unit.

    You may like this info as well.

    http://www.mgnoc.com/article_rare_birds.html
     

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