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Guzzi V7 dies with "clacking" sound and won't start again

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by frnco, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. frnco

    frnco Tuned and Synch'ed

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    This is what happened to my V7 II 2016 (serviced for my first 600miles a month ago btw...):

    I was riding at low speed, trying to find a parking spot, so I could have been riding ar 10mph or less, and the bike was slowing down...
    at one point I hear a weird clacking noise (not a click but more a loud clack!)

    ...the bike dies with sputtering sounds....and I try to start it but it does weird sounds until it doesn't do any sounds anymore ....but just a clack.

    I read out there the click or clack can be the starter/solenoid etc... but my case seems different from what I read/watched online...

    usually people find bikes not working the day after a night in the garage or something...

    what concerns me is that it did happen while it was running...

    I even thought it was the friction or the engine that broke ... not the battery death or bad connections...

    please help!

    thanks
     
  2. Trout

    Trout GT Reference

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    OK This is kinda weird.
    There used to be a radio show called "Click & Clack The Tappet Brothers".
    People would call in & the brothers would get then to describe the problem complete with sound effects.
    It was a great show.

    Now for serious.
    It's difficult to diagnose with the info you supplied so lets try questions & answers.
    First it's not the starter/solenoid thing, that would show up on starting the bike not slowing down.

    What gear were you in?
    I ask because if you were in a higher gear you may have been lugging the engine causing it to stall.
    You may want to check the "kill" switch & make sure you did not hit it & shut the bike off.

    Was the bike moving (not sure how to word this) calmly, steady or was it bucking & jumping at slow speed?
    Again bucking/jumping could be lugging or a fuel issue or a clogged air filter.

    How were you riding before slowing down in the parking lot?
    If you had been out for a "Hi-speed" ride you may have excess oil in the air filter.
    The engine crankcase vents to the air filter & it is "normal" for the V7 to push oil into the air box.
    If you are capable of checking the air filter please do. If there is oil in there it will have to be cleaned & there are threads on here to fix the issue.

    How did you get the bike home?
    Did it finally start or did you trailer it?

    If it started how did it run?

    if you trailered it: Was it easy to push or was there a drag like the brake was partially on?
     
  3. v7flier

    v7flier Tuned and Synch'ed GT Famiglia

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    Was there a resolution to this? Curious.
     
  4. AndreasG

    AndreasG Just got it firing!

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    Voltage regulator?
     
  5. jpv7

    jpv7 Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Doubt it as it's a V7ii
     
  6. Carlos Rivera

    Carlos Rivera Just got it firing!

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    I think i know the clacking sound your talking about. I was practicing slow speed maneuvers in an empty parking lot. At some point the bike started slowing down and clacked off. I think it was just getting too hot, (100+ F) that day and all under 10 mph.

    The clacking noise may have been from the very low rpms before it dies, it was for me. I gave it a 5 minute rest before trying to start it again and all was normal. Just my experience with the clack.
     
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  7. Wahoo650

    Wahoo650 Tuned and Synch'ed

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    It's under warranty - get it to the dealer.
     
  8. frnco

    frnco Tuned and Synch'ed

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    (sorry for the delay)

    Thank guys for so many interesting point of views
    • yes it was a hot day more than 92 degree
    • yes i was going 5-10mph trying to find a parking spot
    • yes I was probably in 2nd gear or even 3rd, can't remember
    • I commute everyday so my speed is always 25-30mph... I'm not a crazy rider
    • "if you trailered it: Was it easy to push or was there a drag like the brake was partially on?" yes i felt a drag despite was in neutral!

    ... here some updates:

    I brought the moto to the dealership which, luckily was close to where the bike died.

    Verdict:

    They said they have to change the entire engine!


    it's under warranty so I don't pay a dime.... but I had my bike serviced for her first 600 miles a month ago...how can this happen for a brand new bike? :rolleyes:
     
  9. Carlos Rivera

    Carlos Rivera Just got it firing!

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    Did they give you a reason why? I am curious to know.

    Thanks for the update.
     
  10. frnco

    frnco Tuned and Synch'ed

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    no they didn't... on the phone they said they are still investigating but most likely they need to change the engine... on Monday I'm going to call again and see if they understood the cause...

    I honestly don't feel the engine lugged... but I heard somebody saying this engine could be prone to overheat and maybe it did really lug... but definitely not my fault because I don't stress the bike that much...mmmmm
     
  11. john zibell

    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    5 to 10 mph in second or third gear would be stressing the bike.
     
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  12. frnco

    frnco Tuned and Synch'ed

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    oops...
     
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    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    5 to 10 mph in second or third gear is stressing the bike. These engines need to turn RPMs, best to keep above 2500 or more so as to keep good lubrication and reduce stress on the engine main and con rod bearings.
     
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    frnco Tuned and Synch'ed

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    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    If they are replacing the motor under warranty with no charge to you... My bet is I am.
     
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  17. frnco

    frnco Tuned and Synch'ed

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    my VIN: ZGULWUB07GM200499

    and t least I know it was not my fault! :)
     
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  18. Wisconsin v7 Racer

    Wisconsin v7 Racer Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Either way you should listen to John''s Zibells advice on lugging the engine and proper gear selection.
     
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  19. lucydad

    lucydad Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Small block Guzzis like to have RPMs as stated by others. I rarely run mine much below 3200 rpm, mostly 4-5 grand.
    Perhaps learn to feather a clutch? Pay attention to gearing, keep the engine in its comfort zone and even high temps won't matter.
    Good luck!
     
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