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Heated Grips for MGX

Discussion in 'Cal 1400 8V' started by keeft-mgx, Oct 22, 2016.

  1. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Finally, I have found my photos :)) I'm quite distracted :))
    The first photo is just to check the system, of course .
    The big black cables are from the Oxford grips, and I have installed the small white connectors, as you can see it.
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  2. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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  3. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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  4. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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  6. Amboguzzi

    Amboguzzi Just got it firing! GT Contributor

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    Hello
    Just want to confirm the Oxford kit is for 7/8" bar.
    2018 Eldorado
    Thanks
    Scott
     
  7. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I have mounted this product :
    oxfordproducts.com/motorcycle/brands/oxford/handlebar_accessories/hotgrips_premium_touring/
    Vizir
     
  8. Amboguzzi

    Amboguzzi Just got it firing! GT Contributor

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    Thanks
    I contacted Oxford before seeing this thread and they recommended the 1" kit EL801Z.
    Scott
     
  9. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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    It's the wrong kit.
    The cali handle bar is nor 1" at the end, but 22mm, and 120 mm length, it's not a japan "cruiser" or HArley .
    The length of the grips are nearly 120 mm without the counterweight .
     
  10. Hydrolastic

    Hydrolastic Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    OK, I got my Oxford grips installed and tested on my 2017 Euro4 California Touring. Here is my experience:

    - The throttle tube was completely smooth, no ridges to file down. It was however, 1.03" in diameter, vs. 1.00" for the throttle grip. I had to spend a lot of time with a file on the grip to get it to fit. Someone mentioned a drum sander, but I couldn't find anything easily that went all the way through, or even halfway.

    - I needed to leave a gap to take into account the slight bump where the throttle sensor is, otherwise the grip will be fouled against it.

    - Both grips needed trimming to clear the bar end weights.

    - The glue sets up extremely fast. You basically get one shot at the throttle side, so everything needs to be lined up perfectly and then pushed straight on. I put glue on the throttle tube by the switch pack, and on the grip by the bar end. I wanted to get mine a little closer to the switch pack than I did, but I guess that beats having it too close and dragging.

    - The factory connectors in the harness were a lot lower on my bike than on Vizir's, so I had to make extension cables. I used the waterproof connectors on the grip, and then cut the wires from the controller to use for the Molex connectors. I had to splice additional wire from the clutch side setup to make the complete run.

    - Someone mentioned in another post to plug the grips in and warm them up to ease installation. That actually worked really well. One caution though - push both sides on the bar while you are figuring final positioning for each side. The grips are designed to have the bar there as a heat sink to prevent overheating. The last photo shows what happens when it overheats :(.

    The end result was the same as Vizir - working heated grips through the factory connections and control button. Would I do it this way again? Not sure at this point. Oxford is now including the clutch lever mounting bracket for their controller, so finding where to mount it is less of an issue. Also, the throttle grip does get warmer than the clutch grip, due to one being on a plastic tube and the other being on a metal bar. The factory button isn't really easy to reach, you still have to move your hand off of the grip to get to it. I think if I were to do it again, I would probably go with the newer Oxford Evo grips, which get warmer faster and have closer temps left and right. I would use the Oxford controller mounted to the clutch M/C, get the Tyco plug for the connector by the battery (same circuit as heated grips), and wire it back there to have it on and off with the ignition. It is nice that we have at least a couple of options.

    One final note - the 2017+ handlebar does not contain the threaded holes for the clutch side OEM heated grip, so nothing about the OEM Cal heated grip kit will work on the Euro4 models. Oh - and plan on several hours to do the install, between filing, fitting, wiring, etc..

    Dave

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  11. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Hello Dave,
    Good news.
    Of course, you need several hours to do the install correctly, but the result is very good.
    I didn't want to have a controller on the handle bar, and many other big cables, and see an other ugly device on it , and, what is more, not very convenient , even if the Oxford controller is more efficient, than the Guzzi wiring.
    Yes, the temperature seems to be slightly different between the 2 grips , but, every heated grips in the market are like this .
    Yes, the new EVO oxford model seems to be the good solution due to the separate control (very good idea), but in this case, it's necessary to install the complet system with their controller (ugly), and the big quantity of cables to install on the handlebar, and for me, it isn't possible :))
    I prefer our integrated solution with the guzzi controls even if it is less efficient.:)))
    But yesterday, I used them in the suburb of Paris for 100 km, and, finally, they heat correctly by 9° Celcius with mid season gloves .
    I think that in addition, I will install the National Cycle Hand Deflectors N5502 very well matched with our bike, and the eagle engraved .

    Vizir
    PS : reassure me, Dave : on the last photo with the overheating grip, it isn't yours ?

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  12. Amboguzzi

    Amboguzzi Just got it firing! GT Contributor

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    Just a thought as I am contemplating this mod. What if I ordered the one inch set and used a 7/8" id x 1" od plastic phenolic spacer on the clutch side. That would allow for the throttle to be installed without modification. Again just a thought.
    Scott
     
  13. kiwi dave

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    Check what is supplied before ordering. You will probably find that the sizes differ for clutch and throttle sides already. No phenolic spacer required. Pity, because it would make the heating of both sides similar speed to warm up.
     
  14. Hydrolastic

    Hydrolastic Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Vizir - I do agree that using the Oxford controller does require extra wiring on the handlebar. The grip wiring is bulky enough (overbuilt IMO, the heated grips on my Triumph Trophy just had the two wires in a typical conduit wrap, not the heavy duty, almost coax, insulation of the Oxfords). Using the Guzzi factory controller does have a neater appearance, and works really well. It would help if the factory button had a more tactile feel to it. With my heated winter gloves, I have a hard time telling whether I've pressed it or not without having to look down at the display.

    Yes, unfortunately that was my grip. Luckily I had already ordered spares, so I had an extra one on hand.

    Dave
     
  15. Vizir

    Vizir Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Dave, just an idea about the factory small button : on my 1200 Aprilia caponord rally, I have added a small plastic translucent cap on the cruise control button, just stuck on it, and it becomes very easy to catch , you could do the same thing .
    EX: fr.rs-online.com/web/p/patins-antiderapants/1034236/
    Vizir
    PS : What do you think about the handguards ?
     

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