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HELP! How to reach topmost screw on V7 II timing cover?

William Craig

William Craig

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Got a slow oil leak from timing cover on 2015 V7 II. folks at two Guzzi shops told me all I had to do to get cover off for gasket removal is
1) move voltage regulator out of the way
2) remove timing cover screws.
Problem: Behind the timing cover there is the brake module
Parts Fiche 33.36
2D000102 ABS Control Unit
held in place by
2B001016 ABS Control Unit Support
It's really the Support that blocks access to the topmost screw of the timing cover.
I've disconnected the Support from the frame, but it can't move out of the way far enough, burdened as it is with the Control Unit.
I've loosened the Control Unit in the Support's cradle by removing the upper AP8152279 screw, but I cannot with any tool I own get at the two bottom AP8152279 screws to separate the Control Unit entirely from the Support.
And even if I could, I can't see where/how the Control unit or the Support is going to get far enough out of the way. MAYBE if I could get those two bottom screws out, the Support would sideslip out to the right...

What am I doing wrong?
Should I really have to unfasten the Control Unit Support from the frame just to get at the timing cover?
Should I really have to unfasten the ABS Control Unit from its support?
If I have to do that, how do I get at those two bottom screws on the Support? Is there a tool I should own that makes this easy?
If I can remove those screws and disconnect Control Unit from Support, but the Support can't move far enough out, am I really supposed to take off the gas tank and disconnect the ABS Control Unit from all its inputs and outputs? That seems CRAZY.

Please, anyone who has removed a V7 II (in this case, Stone) timing cover and remembers how it's done, tell me how and with what tools.
THANK YOU!
 
Yes. I should have said. I've read through the Service Manual, the engine manual, everything available. None of them show so much as a picture or make a mention of the process for removing the timing cover.
john zibell said:
Have you looked at the service manual in the downloads section?
Click to expand...

Not sure. I've used every manual I have--- the Service Station Manual I have is
SERVICE STATION MANUAL
2Q000105
V7 II
but I don't know whether that's the one in the downloads section, as (though I have made a donation) the page says download not available. If anyone could tell me whether that download is the same as the one I have, that'd be great.
Overall, though, I haven't much hope, as none of the manuals I have--- the engine manuals, service manuals, etc--- even come close to discussing removing the timing cover----- unless you already have the engine out of the bike, which seems absurdly too far to have to go to replace the most accessible of gaskets (after head gaskets, I guess)...
 
The V7ii manual refers to the engine manual for the dry alternator V7...lol. big help that was! I took mine off last summer, and it does take patience. The abs control unit needs to come off its bracket, and the bracket needs to be extracted out the right side. Getting the abs control unit back on the bracket is more fun...
 
Thanks very much. At least now I know I'm not off my rocker--- I mean, in a relative sense--- or just too dumb to see how it's done. It's done the HARD way! I'm taking advice, buying some u-joint socket adapters, and hoping those *&%$! screws come out without too godawful much fighting.
Say, does it make any sense to take the tank off for this struggle with the ABS?
 
Well maybe it's possible that we are both dummies...I just put my tank on last night - i could have checked for you! Sure, take it off. As others have posted, it helps if you disconnect the fuel pump connector first and then turn over the engine a bit to relieve fuel pressure. Mine came off fairly easy. Just don't pull on the line too hard or you'll break the fitting at the pump! It works line an air line. You push the fuel line and full the ring back to release it (hopefully that makes sense).
 
Depends on the dealer...and how busy they are. This time of year up here, the dealer is crazy busy, so I wouldn't bother. It's a good shop, but he'd probably give it to a kid to fix. I want it fixed right. The warranty is for the big stuff...
 
Indeed, dealers are crunched now. And my closest, 1 1/2 hours away, didn't sell me the bike. I bought it on the other side of the country. So friends encouraged me to expand my small wrenching experience by doing something simple, like changing this most-accessible gasket.

I hate my friends. :wondering:
 
YOU CAN DO IT!
Just take your time you'll be right.
I used to own a Yamaha R1 05 model and just to check the valves was a nightmare all the parts that had to come off the bike just to have a look and then I had 2 valves out of spec so I had to pull the cam chain adjuster the 2 cams had to come out put the new shims in and reassemble.
I remember my son saying to me imagine what a shop would have charged you!
 
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