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Lots of Oil in the air filter box California 1400

Discussion in 'Cal 1400 8V' started by shane160657, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. Glenn Thorpe

    Glenn Thorpe Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I'm getting ready to do the 1st oil change on my Eldorado 1400 and am glad I found this thread. I'll be very careful not to overfill.

    This is not unique to Moto Guzzi. I had a BMW F650 (Rotax engine) and overfilled it just a hair above the full mark on the dipstick. It ended up soaking the new K&N filter with oil I had recently installed. It did have a "do not overfill" warning molded on the oil cap, I guess they really meant it :)
     
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    Sorry to drag up an old thread...but I just want to say THANKS! reading this probably saved me some trouble on this road trip. I had the dealer do the last few oil changes, but doing it myself this time as I'm heading on a multiweek trip in a few days.

    I totally would have filled it right up near the max line if I hadn't read this.

    But instead I drained and filled with 3Liters. Oil level is about 1/4 - 3/8 above the min line.

    Cheers Joe
     
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    I have been told multiples MG sources that small amounts of condensation and oil out the bottom airbox drain is normal. I get about 1.25 inches in the drain about every 300km. This drains out to make only a few drops. The I'D of the clear tub is small so it looks like a lot but is not.

    In a case where the airbox is full of oil, there must be considerable oil dumping out.

    How much is too much.
     
  4. just James

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    Had not checked my oil level for a while (no smoke, and no leaks, so no worries, right?). Checked it yesterday, and it was WAAAAAY too low. Didn't have time to check out the airbox, so I just added oil up to the lower line on the stick. Will check out the airbox this weekend.
    Has there been any fix found for this issue?
     
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    Sure enough, I pulled the plug out of the drain tube this morning and a bunch of oil came out. Didn't have time to completely drain it, but I will after work today. Will open the airbox this weekend, and see how much is on the air filter.
     
  6. anmagu

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    Dealer told me to never fill in oil more than half between min. And max. On the dipstick.

    Also: did ur dealer use the correct 10w-60 oil?
    Wrong oil can foam up when hot and then make its way to the airbox.
     
  7. just James

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    No, I have no way of knowing for sure that the mechanic put the proper weight oil in it, as I did not watch him add the oil.
     
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    See if they have it on the shelf. Many dealers use "what we have"!
     
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    I was on a trip, 1,300 miles from home when I had it changed. The MG dealer was too busy to do it, so they recommended a shop that they deal with on a regular basis. The shop said that they used the 10w60, but who really knows.
     
  10. PaulDavies

    PaulDavies Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    In my experience, searching around Vancouver, I couldn't find a single motorcycle shop that stocked 10w60 unless they were a franchised dealer and their bikes used the stuff. Yes it's possible to buy it in and I guess they could have got it from the MG dealer you mention, but it's a lot easier to use what's on the shelf, especially in the middle of "nowhere ville". My buddy (who rides a Harley) found himself low on Oil on a day ride to Whistler last year and just bought some from a Gas Station and put that in. When I asked if it was the right stuff he said "any oil is better than no oil" and this was the bikes owner!!
     
  11. just James

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    Well, he had a point. The main reason I had the oil changed mid trip is that I had to add a little wrong weight oil (20w50). Yes, any oil is better than chancing it getting below the sump. I didn't go very far with a half quart of 20w50 mixed in, and I wanted to get it out of there as soon as possible.
     
  12. John L

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    Guzzi lore says to check oil level with the dip stick unscrewed and to fill to about mid way between full and low. When I do this that just about puts it at the full level on the dipstick when screwed in, just maybe that is the correct way to do it.
     
  13. just James

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    Finally got the time to change the oil and filter, tranny juice, and air filter yesterday. There was no oil on the air filter, but a tiny bit in the bottom of the airbox. Engine and transmission oil changes were pretty easy, and will probably be quite a bit quicker the next time I do it.
    Next on the agenda is adjusting the valves.
     

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