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MAYDAY! Dead Norge at Side of Road

Discussion in 'BNS12 Chat & Tech' started by Bill Hagan, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. Bill Hagan

    Bill Hagan GT Reference GT Famiglia

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    John W. recently sold his early 2007 Norge (sister VIN to mine) to friend, Ray.

    We are all at western N.Y. rally in Westfield, N.Y.

    On short ride this a.m., Ray’s Norge -- 11K miles; well maintained --- “died” underway.

    Checked all fuses and relays. All appear good.

    Ruled out (preliminarily, at least) sidestand interlock.

    Starter cranks; no start.

    John — who is on the scene and whom I cc — and others there believe related to internal fuel pump as I understand they can see fuel “swirling,” which they recall as filter failure?

    Given unavailability of OEM, might any of you know of clone that would work?

    Other ideas/suggestions?

    Bill
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    P.S. Will search forum now, but, given exigent circumstance, wanted to post ASAP.
     
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    GT-Rx® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Bill, sure sounds like the internal fuel filter or line. A BMW shop should have one, or most Euro moto shops or automotive should as well, but you might need to carry it in and show them. Don't forget the clamps and tools to R&R. It might just be that one of the lines popped off. Have to go in to see. Keep us posted.
    https://gtmotocycles.com/products/all-metal-in-tank-fuel-filters
     
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    The UFI number, according to the MG Cycle site, is 31.760.00. This crosses over to a Wix 33033.
    When I swapped out my fuel filter, some years ago, I used the Wix number.
    33033 is for 3/8 hose, for some reason I thought my bike was 5/16 hose but it was a long time ago. 5/16 hose would be a 33032.

    This should be easy to find at any local parts store for just a few $$$.
     
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    The all metal filter to use is the KL 145 or equivalent. That is what BMW motorcycles use. I just serviced a V7 Cafe today and checking the fuel filter the previous owner had already installed the KL 145 so that catastrophe has been averted for that bike
     
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    Thanks to all for the prompt and helpful replies.

    Seems hose was OK.

    Tho perhaps removing the clamps on the the OEM filter MAY have done some damage. ::think:

    Be that as it may, the culprit this time was the filter itself.

    The plastic half of the OEM was so swollen -- presumably from cursed ethanol :swear: -- that it split at the seam with its metal mate. :fubar:

    [​IMG]

    Guzzisteve called in the NAPA part #[GOLD 3032] and all was well. :clap:

    I'll post some pix of this and more when I get back home on Monday.

    Bill
     
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    Nothing to do with Ethanol. When I made an enquiry with Mahle UK about that filter they told me it was designed for use with diesel fuel and on no account should it be immersed on petrol/gasolene. The also very kindly sent me a couple of KL145 metal filters.
     
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    Interesting, Brian.

    That is puzzling to me as I did not think there had been many -- if any -- failures of that OEM filter in Europe, i.e., outside of "Ethanol Country."

    Bill
     
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    They swell up just the same here. I changed mine some years back and it was well out of shape.
    But I understood they were more concerned with the adhesive which was used to seal the join between the plastic and metal.
     

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