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Thanks for the post... and look closely at the faces of those in the above frame, I concur. I guess I'll just go buy a KTM when these things start arriving. I'm anxious to see what else they pull out next, to see what my next brand will be.
Well, that one definetely looks more Italian and certainly more like previous Guzzis. But I'm a bit amazed you don't appreciate the Terreblanche concept bike to such an extent. Esp. the red one, with its original rear suspension.
Of course I also hope they'll keep the "classical classy" bikes in their lineup, but I don't find these prototypes ugly (like the Strada Aperta for instance). And I'm quite sure they'd very much be "in the market" if Guzzi manages to release them in time to ride on the "street fighter" hype. Could bring the fresh buyers they need!
I'm going to coin an alternative term for "street fighter", which I can't stand. These would be the 21st versions of the Café Racers of old, no? That'd make them Club Racers (or whatever fashionable cafés are now called B) )
Of course I also hope they'll keep the "classical classy" bikes in their lineup, but I don't find these prototypes ugly (like the Strada Aperta for instance). And I'm quite sure they'd very much be "in the market" if Guzzi manages to release them in time to ride on the "street fighter" hype. Could bring the fresh buyers they need!
I'm going to coin an alternative term for "street fighter", which I can't stand. These would be the 21st versions of the Café Racers of old, no? That'd make them Club Racers (or whatever fashionable cafés are now called B) )
René, I'm not a big fan of the "streetfighter" (er, naked standard) styling these days, and on the few I don't mind, they usually back the look with massive power, and low weight. Just the recipe that would win me many speeding "awards" or send me quickly to jail. If I were to buy one, I would want the things outlined above, and I can't see it using the current Guzzi power-plant, which is what makes it a Guzzi IMO. I do suppose it will bring in "new blood" but they better be ready with product support and a dealer base (at least here in the U.S., where it's sadly lacking) that can handle the issues that new-to-Guzzi owners bring.
While I can appreciate the technological advances on the red bike below, it just doesn't do it for me. Cost too would be pretty prohibitive as well I would bet.
While I can appreciate the technological advances on the red bike below, it just doesn't do it for me. Cost too would be pretty prohibitive as well I would bet.
oca
Cruisin' Guzzisti
I am all over the green one. It certainly is an updated, IMHO, of the Centauro. Vey 21st century.
Now it is a tough choice the Griso SE or this one. I guess I will have to wait until 2012.
Now it is a tough choice the Griso SE or this one. I guess I will have to wait until 2012.
Allan
Tuned and Synch'ed
Moto Guzzi is spending money on 'concepts.' It has to be a positive sign that they are serious. There are pieces from each of these concepts that I appreciate, especially the red one. I like the shape of the fuel tank and seat, the exhaust, sump, Ohlins forks and radial brakes. I would love to see something like this with a half fairing and a less interesting(?) headlight. I was hoping to see a often rumored 1400 cc quattro-valve. There are some great photos of these bikes at; http://www.asphaltandrubber.com.
It might be that I am a "stick in the mud", but I think most modern industrial design lacks something.
Sure these bikes might appeal to the 20 year old who has too much cash and wants to pull wheelies from every traffic light, but IMO the designs will date very quickly - something that I thought the Italians were generally very good at avoiding.
Unless they are a design or trechnical breakthrough, these bikes if they make it to the show room floor will IMO have a short commercial life, just like most things aimed at the rev head consumer who are driven by fashion not form. They certainly would have trouble being put into the "classic" or "significant" dsign category when written about in 10 years time.
Maybe it's the Piaggio influence.
Sure these bikes might appeal to the 20 year old who has too much cash and wants to pull wheelies from every traffic light, but IMO the designs will date very quickly - something that I thought the Italians were generally very good at avoiding.
Unless they are a design or trechnical breakthrough, these bikes if they make it to the show room floor will IMO have a short commercial life, just like most things aimed at the rev head consumer who are driven by fashion not form. They certainly would have trouble being put into the "classic" or "significant" dsign category when written about in 10 years time.
Maybe it's the Piaggio influence.
Mike, think you nailed it, I'm in the same boat.
Allan, interesting that they are calling the rosso version "Le Mans" -- sad really. I do appreciate the details, including this wonderful (adjustable) peg mount. Edit: Hmmm.. not seeing how it could work with linkage attached). Think I'll trying for something similar for my Hellion project:
Allan, interesting that they are calling the rosso version "Le Mans" -- sad really. I do appreciate the details, including this wonderful (adjustable) peg mount. Edit: Hmmm.. not seeing how it could work with linkage attached). Think I'll trying for something similar for my Hellion project:
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Roblatt
High Miler
Look like boxers with squashed noses. Yuk!
vivo
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Think of the cheap Japanese CD/radio systems for the home and turn that junk into Motorcycle form! This guy is a loser! He take a train front end, marries it to a speedboat tail section without understanding the basics of REGULATING lines. He knows NOTHING about design.
This is more of the same mindless crap , IMO, really BAD design. I wouldn't EVER want one and given it seems we thus far are split on the beauty of these machines I would suggest Piaggio think r e a l hard before going down this road...
vivo
This is more of the same mindless crap , IMO, really BAD design. I wouldn't EVER want one and given it seems we thus far are split on the beauty of these machines I would suggest Piaggio think r e a l hard before going down this road...
vivo
baloches
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Well there they are :unsure:
Nothing that would make you run around showing the new Guzzis to the un-annointed
I'm a Terblanche fan, my 2004 Multistrada is fantastic at doing what it was designed for, and I find it's design cleaner and much lighter looking than the 1200. Heh, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder, right?
:whistle: Now that I'm out of the closet, these designs don't seem to represent what Guzzi stands for. They look like they just rolled off the "Pimp My Ride" set. They are not breaking ground, they're chasing the other designs and adding some useless gimmicks, whats the point of an LCD screen if it's twice as ugly and four times as useless as a nicely crafted mirror. Like Todd says, " I'll just go and buy a KTM". They are just concepts, and for that a lot of the gimmicky pieces should hopefully disappear from a production model.
At least they're doin' sumthin', there's actually somebody wielding a pencil instead of just changing colors on the Cali, from what has been said about the Norge they addressed a lot of the issues. For me if they'd have just stuffed a Quattrovalvole in without the improvements it would have been a letdown, like taking the easy route.
Nothing that would make you run around showing the new Guzzis to the un-annointed
I'm a Terblanche fan, my 2004 Multistrada is fantastic at doing what it was designed for, and I find it's design cleaner and much lighter looking than the 1200. Heh, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder, right?
:whistle: Now that I'm out of the closet, these designs don't seem to represent what Guzzi stands for. They look like they just rolled off the "Pimp My Ride" set. They are not breaking ground, they're chasing the other designs and adding some useless gimmicks, whats the point of an LCD screen if it's twice as ugly and four times as useless as a nicely crafted mirror. Like Todd says, " I'll just go and buy a KTM". They are just concepts, and for that a lot of the gimmicky pieces should hopefully disappear from a production model.
At least they're doin' sumthin', there's actually somebody wielding a pencil instead of just changing colors on the Cali, from what has been said about the Norge they addressed a lot of the issues. For me if they'd have just stuffed a Quattrovalvole in without the improvements it would have been a letdown, like taking the easy route.
baloches
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Mike.C said:
"Hmmm," the restless Aussie thought, "this would be a nice winter shed project" :silly: