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More Griso 8V Ruminations

Discussion in 'Griso-Bella Chat & Tech' started by mojohand, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. mojohand

    mojohand Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Still thinking hard about the Griso 8V that Steelhorse has for discounted sale. Some thoughts...

    1. Luggage: I like the C-Bow mounts for the Hepco-Becker 23 liter bags. Wonder how much better they are than the Guzzi ones. I do like the Guzzi ones. And for hard bags, I like the HB 30- or 40-liter ones.
    2. Parts: Availability comes to mind. I hear about folks who can't find HB stuff in the US easily.
    3. I probably would want the flyspeck windshielf, or perhaps the Givi A770 (?)...but again, availability comes to mind.
    4. Use: Though I like that V7 Café Classic, and though I toured > 23K miles on my Breva 750, I'd kinda hate to tour on the Café. Hate to muck it up with bags & such. Better as a day-rider bike. However, I do like sport touring...and it'd be great to have an option when I want to do some ST and the Norge is in for service (or down for something like an oil pump).
    5. Range: Little bothered by the < 150-mile range of the gas tank.
    6. Affordability: It's a great price, but I also have to personally determine whether I can/should spend the ducats. Oh, and I'm a new-bike kinda guy, not a used bike buyer. Chacun a son gout etc.

    Just some random thoughts, is all.
     
  2. mojohand

    mojohand Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Lots of posts on this over at Wildguzzi. One thing I didn want to ask here: someone asked if the 2009 engine and the 2011 were the same, that is, someone wrote:

    I thought I remembered reading here that, with map #68, the 2009 ran evenly, without the 5K power surge. Or..?
     
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    Chicago Mark Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    My 2009 8v with the latest map (#68s) is smooth as silk throughout the entire rev range. Should be no difference to a 2010 or a 2011 8v.

    All the best,

    Mark
     
  4. grimace

    grimace Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Get the O2 Optimizer. The bike runs so much smoother at slow speeds. No more herky jerky on/off throttle at sub 45mph. Immediately noticeable.
     
  5. mojohand

    mojohand Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    I'd not heard of the O2 Optimizer, but after reading the thread, I can see it's a must-do enhancement.

    I want to confirm the other things that should be done prior to picking up the bike:

    1. Confirm the cam update has been done (is there a link to details about that?)
    2. Confirm the fuel pump has been updated (wasn't there a recall or warranty issue?--again, any links would help)
    3. Seal the speedo sensor (what specific kind of sealant do you use--silicone grease or something else?)
    5. Tach housing--drill a small hole to eliminate condensation (or just wait to see if mine fogs up?)
    6. Fluids are original 2009...should they be changed before riding, or should I just wait till the first service?

    Anything else?

    Thanks!
     
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    mojohand Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Just ordered it!
     
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    mojohand Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    In addition, and in the interest of full disclosure...I just gave Steelhorse the thumbs-up, yessirindeedy, go-ahead-and-charge-my-credit-card to sell me the 2009 black Griso. Already have a working name for her: Nera.

    Please keep all the hints and suggestions and ideas coming!
     
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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]


    See you at the North Carolina Rally ? with the Greaso ?

    Congrats, Tell them to make sure the #68 map is in it and is it subject to the cam tappet recall ?
     
  9. mojohand

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Thanks, Dan, and yes, I think I'd ride the Griso there! I just talked with Mike. He believes that their '09 was outside of the numbers, but he's going to double check.
     
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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Best color choice IMHO . . . welcome to our little world o' fun!! Approaching 10K exhilarating miles on my '09 and only issue has been a plug cap replaced under warranty.
     
  11. pete roper

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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    CAm PROFILES haven't to the best of my knowledge changed on the A5 motor in the 8VG. What DID change at some point but I BELIEVE 2010 MY machines was when it happened was that the cam design was changed to allow the fittment of shims to limit cam end float.

    '09 Model should be beyond the cam/tappet problems but I ALWAYS check anything pre-'10.

    Fuel pump hose also shouldn't be an issue, seal the speedo sensor with some sort of varnish just to be on the safe side. Leave the dashboard alone. Fluids will all be fine.

    PD is important. As is checking valve clearances regularly early in the engine's life.

    My bike has no map modifiers and runs just dandy everywhere. Other machines may of course differ. If it does run a bit odd I suggest checking that only one of the air bleeds is open although its OK for them both to be closed if the TB ballance is correct at idle and above. Once set correctly there is very little that is likely to need to be done WRT the FI. When was the last time you had to have the FI fiddled with on yoyr car? Probably never! Why should your bike be any different???

    Pete
     
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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Pete[/quote]

    Just chuckling over how pampered the Guzzi gets compared to my car the other day after getting my little diesel Euro car "serviced" (oil and filter only - spoit it to Walmart full synth because it was on offer).. now nearly 6 years old, done over 120k miles. Had a cambelt at 72k, few sets of glowplugs and 2 injectors reconditioned at 110K. I've no idea about valve clearances and when enquired at the main dealer when the gearbox oil should be changed was told there is no schedule for it at all...

    of course its just a car and it doesn't get under your skin

    lead to another thought - I've read quite a bit over recent years about improvements in injector design (moto and car) and thinking back to all the carb fiddling/rejetting/upgrading we all ”enjoyed” in the past I wondered whether a straight injector swap to a more modern design may be worthwhile. Have the bigblock CARC Guzzi injectors ever been updated to keep up with developments?

    Art
     
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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Just chuckling over how pampered the Guzzi gets compared to my car the other day after getting my little diesel Euro car "serviced" (oil and filter only - spoit it to Walmart full synth because it was on offer).. now nearly 6 years old, done over 120k miles. Had a cambelt at 72k, few sets of glowplugs and 2 injectors reconditioned at 110K. I've no idea about valve clearances and when enquired at the main dealer when the gearbox oil should be changed was told there is no schedule for it at all...

    of course its just a car and it doesn't get under your skin

    lead to another thought - I've read quite a bit over recent years about improvements in injector design (moto and car) and thinking back to all the carb fiddling/rejetting/upgrading we all ”enjoyed” in the past I wondered whether a straight injector swap to a more modern design may be worthwhile. Have the bigblock CARC Guzzi injectors ever been updated to keep up with developments?

    Art
     
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    Gordon Tuned and Synch'ed

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    On the subject of luggage there's pic of my Griso with 42lt HB bags on the Moto Corsa Facebook page:
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater
    Yeah, I know that it makes it Land Rover size but they are no wider that the enge of the mirrors on the bars.
    Gordon
     
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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    Thanks for all that, Pete (and glad you made it back home safely, BTW). Checked with the dealer: tappets & cam WERE replaced, so that's cool. As you said, fuel pump's not an issue.

    I do have a question of clarification: PD? Whassat? Proper Diet? Police Department (for the tickets I'll likely get)? Promotional Detail? ;)

    Also, some folks have mentioned a specific brake pad over the EBCs. Too, any US folks have specific recos on sealant? Is wood varnish the right thing? Grease? Sorry to be such a noooob...

    joe
     
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    Re: More Griso 8V Ruminations [cross-posted from Wildguzzi]

    PD = Pre Delivery inspection.

    Brake pads on Pete's recommendation is EBC EPFA244HH, waiting for them to arrive and they will go on the Griso they are NOT cheap . He also recommends a knock off made in China set of Piazzio levers for better brake feel they are 55 dollars for the pair or so on Ebay and are of very good fit and finish also have them as well.
     
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    Pads ordered...thanks, Dan! And yes I'll ensure the PD is correct. Pick it up tomorrow!
     

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