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New Owner - 2010 Griso

Discussion in 'Griso-Bella Chat & Tech' started by lvgs, Mar 21, 2016.

  1. lvgs

    lvgs Just got it firing!

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    I just bought a used, fully documented 2010 8V with ~13,000 kms. I previously owned a 2007 1100 and traded it for a Bonneville. After over a year and in spite of also buying a Cali 1400 recently, I was determined to get another. And so when this opportunity presented itself, I grabbed it.

    After reading about the earlier 8Vs, I became aware of a looming tappet issue and hoped to get some information - appreciating that it has been written about extensively...

    Should I be concerned? Does this apply to the 2010 model year? Was there an official recall on the 2010s to address this? Is there an online VIN listing of recalls/issues? Is there any preventative measure I should pursue?

    Please note, I haven't actually noticed anything unusual i.e. in terms of noise and there is nothing in the service history to suggest any concern. Also, the bike had a service on Jan/15 and at that time, no recalls were noted.

    Any help would be much appreciated and thanks!
     
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    pokeyjoe High Miler

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    Yes, you should be concerned.
    Yes, it applies to the 2010 model year.
    No, there has not been a recall.
    Not really. The break between flat tappets and rollers occurred in the 2012 model year.
    There is nothing you can do to prevent failure from happening.

    If you can get a dealer to examine the tappets (DLC coating wears off), they might be able to submit a warranty claim. Sometimes Moto Guzzi pays for parts, but not labor. Sometimes they pay for everything.

    If the coating comes off all at once, you will lose the crankshaft bearings as well.
     
  3. lvgs

    lvgs Just got it firing!

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    That's very helpful John, thank you.

    Its left me wondering whether I made the right decision to buy the bike and secondly, whether its safe to ride until I get it checked. Thoughts?
     
  4. john zibell

    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Get it checked before you ride it much. I just converted a low mileage Stelvio and wear was evident.
     
  5. rudolf35

    rudolf35 Just got it firing!

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    I also purchased a used low mileage Griso V8; 2010 model also traded in on a new Griso. I have been riding it as my "fun" Sunday go to church bike and thus far no noise of the valve train. I was told that it is time to worry when the valves do not hold their lash - time will tell.
    I will ride it until I get board with it or it blows. If it blows, well, fix it and carry on. It is a toy after all; besides, it was 4 brethren backing it up. :giggle:
     
  6. Mark111

    Mark111 Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    IVGS and Rudolf,
    Do what you want but it is inevitable that the 2010 engine's tappets will fail.
    If you wait for them to fail and sufficient damage is caused to spread metal through the engine oil galleries, you run the risk of having a throwaway engine when the crank is damaged.
    The problem is that the engine will still run reasonably well whilst it is chewing itself to bits inside and by the time it is clearly evident, it may have done irreparable damage.
    The intelligent thing to do is to have the cam box removed and the tappets inspected.
    It is inevitable that wear will be evident (it has appeared on correctly serviced engines with as little as 7,000 km traveled).
    When this is sighted the relevant dealer should be able to seek the replacement parts to repair the engine and you pay the labor if you have a proper service history.
    Don't rely on Piaggio to do the right thing, in this scenario they have shit on multiple owners and seem to have no real conscience in relation to the defect which they have clearly know about for years.
    Don't blame the dealers as they have also been hung out to dry by the corporation.
    Do I sound bitter about this issue, you bet I do based on my very costly experience which nearly destroyed my engine.
    If you catch the damage early enough and fit the rollers you will have eliminated your potential time bomb.
     
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