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norge forks

motobob

motobob

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So, I've read all the posts about the short comings of the Norge front forks and I realize the hyperpro fixes do the trick and are a reasonable price to get the forks as the should have been. Why did the factory not use the Showa inverted forks that are on the Griso? Considering the cost of a Norge those forks should have come as standard fare.
Bob
 
Nobody's ventured an opinion yet so I'll give mine.
2 reasons # 1 Would be the bean counters. #2 The marketing research genius's gave us what they thought we wanted in a sport tourer, a nice plush boulevard ride with some sporting pretension's. Well they blew that!
 
I agree with those assumptions. They did not do their homework. I have done some parts comparisions between the Griso and Norge and except for the triple clamps all else seems to be relatively the same, head brgs, calipers, etc. I wonder how much a set of the usd forks and triple clamps would be. I've seen ohlins usd forks on e-bay for about $1400.00, but then all other parts have to be aquired. Could be a good winter project.
Bob
 
Or you could do the Hyperpro spring/PD valve emulators for less than a third the cost of the ohlins alone. A bit more if you ship your forks to Todd to do the work.
 
Most likely the hyperpro rework is the way I will go. I am just a big fan of inverted forks.
Bob
 
another thing that has not been mentioned if you should damage a fork seal the standard fork will weep fluid out slowly and can complete the trip you may be on... a USD fork, I think in very little time you will have a mess since seal is at bottom i would think the oil would all leak out and leave you with no oil in fork leg in a short period of time, this would end your trip where it fails, and you are able to fix. I'll vote for standard fork on a Norge.
 
motobob wrote:
Most likely the hyperpro rework is the way I will go. I am just a big fan of inverted forks.
Bob
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You wont regret it, I went with the springs, PD valves and custom spacers and coming off the center stand for the first time after the install gave immediate satisfaction anyone who has done this will understand @ 165.00 US it is the best upgrade for the money so far.
 
It certainly has to do with cost. Back in '05, the P.R. guy at Guzzi SpA told me that the inverted (Japanese) Showa forks are very pricey for them to acquire. The standard conventional Norge Marz fork is quite decent with the YSS PD valves & HP springs. For the general service of the Norge forks, I think they fit the bill, though I would be much happier with a fully-adjustable set/option. The inverted/USD set that came on all of the V11 Sports were no better then the current conventional versions when it comes to ride/adjustability.

There are plenty of other conventional cartridge forks out there that are quite good.

RR, inverted fork seals leaking would be approx. the same rate, as the oil still lives inside the tube... so it would only be residual that gets splashed over the top (edge, which would be a fairly limited amount) that would leak down.

Marzocchi does currently make a good set of 43mm inverted forks that are fully adjustable (shown below), but I suspect you'd have to pay $1500+ USD more for them to come on a new bike.

Comes down to production cost. How much more would you pay to have a Breva/Norge/Sport with inverted/USD forks?

usd43rac-s.jpg
 
I understand what your saying. The Showa usd forks that were on my Buell S3T, which I had for over Ten yrs, never leaked. Those marzocchi forks look very nice. The only reason I was talking about the Griso forks was because of some interchangablity (sp) of some major parts, brake discs and calipers in particular. Since we are talking forks here, does any one know how much assembly has to be done once the bikes arrive at the dealer? Are the triple clamps and forks put on at the dealer as a complete unit or are the triple clamps all ready on the bike and just the forks have to be installed?
Bob
 
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