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Racer or Anniversario- that is the question..

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by Maj Steve Trevor, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Maj Steve Trevor

    Maj Steve Trevor Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I am torn, but need to decide soon: Should I buy the Anniversario or a Racer (both 2016 and 2017 are available). I know, I know, a very subjective question. And very different bikes, but I like both. Feel free to weigh in and try to convince me! Performance should be the same, so it’s really a question of style, on the one hand, and comfiness on the other...
     
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    roadscum Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Only you know the answer but. If you can't decide but must have a V7 the choice is clear...... ya gotta buy both.

    Paul
     
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    Godfrey High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Well, I'm much more comfortable riding the Racer ... but I bought a dual seat and might get the grab rail from the Anniversario for when I want to go traveling. Racer in stock configuration is a little tricky to put a bag onto that will carry enough for a good long trip due to the high upswept exhausts, so a dual seat gives a platform to fit a bag onto. If I can figure enough mounting points for the bag without needing a grab rail, it's a ten second switch over from normal monoposto to dual seat configuration.

    The bag I'm using is a Nelson Rigg SL-3000, more than enough space for a coast to coast trip for me.
     
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    Maj Steve Trevor Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    On my way to the dealer right now! Probably the 2016 Racer, but will report back...
     
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    Godfrey High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Good Luck! They're all fine machines! :D
     
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    Bob Ponticelli Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Like them both but purely aesthetics:

    2016 Racer
    Likes - Clip-ons
    Likes - Red Frame
    Likes - Up-swept Exhaust
    Likes - Alum Side Covers
    No-Like - Grey Tank
    No-Like - Buy passenger pegs

    2017 Anniverario
    Likes - Tank
    Likes - 2-up brown seat and passenger pegs
    Likes - Latest engine design
    Likes - Grab Bar
    No-Like - Low Exhaust
    No-Like - Side Covers ugly

    As others said, you don't have a bad choice. I like things with either. Guess it might come down to pricing for me but also I would know I needed to get another seat and pegs which isn't difficult. If you were not a fan of the racer tank I know some folks dislike the plated tanks and you may even be able to do a swap. Most importantly, post a picture of what you get!

    Spam Note to anyone here. I do have a new Verde Legnano (Green Tank) should anyone find themselves in the market.
     
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    Godfrey High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Um, why did you compare the 2016 of one model vs the 2017 of the other? The V7III Racer has both the latest engine design and passenger pegs, never mind the other improvements.

    If you need two up seating, just get the brown dual seat and the grab rail. If you must have a chrome tank, well, get that too. :)

    (Personally, I kinda like the brushed silver Racer tank; I"m not a big fan of chrome-plated tanks. A "Guzzi flat racing green" Racer would be pretty cool looking too, actually! But I'm not actually in the market for a tank.)
     
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    Bob Ponticelli Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    You are correct.....I thought the OP mentioned the Racer was a 2016 vs the Anniversario was a 2017. I like the 17 brushed tank.........not a fan of the 16 grey two-tone.
     
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    Maj Steve Trevor Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Well, Anniversario it is! Three hour drive there on my Royal Enfield, three hour drive back on my Anniversario. Sore hip flexors...

    I really thought I would end up with the 2016 Racer, which was on a major sale and which I loved riding the first short test ride a few weeks ago. But a longer ride today convinced me that the ergonomics weren’t for me, so the Anniversario it was! Mostly very happy happy with it.
    I’ll put it on the registry page soon, with pics if I can figure out how!
    Thanks to all for the feedback!
     
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    Godfrey High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Congratulations and good luck with your new Anniversario!

    One minor correction:
    :D
     
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    Right!
     
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    Stradagene Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Nice! Of the V7 III's the Anniversario is the only one that I am envious of. Beautiful bike!

    You absolutely did the right thing by doing a longer test ride on the Racer.
    You're going to love this bike. You'll be looking for excuses to ride it, and it was a good choice to go with the one that fits you better.
     
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    Well, kudos to you for doing three hours on a Royal Enfield! :clap:

    I actually like those beasts and have a few back-road miles on a new Cafe model. That said, cannot imagine that long a ride without a long walk every hour or so. As I suspect you already know by now, your V7 is a way more comfortable steed, though it, too, is not the premier slab machine. But it sure shines on the back roads ... and you don't need to plan ahead to assault a hill as at least I needed with the RE I rode.

    Not sure if you are a longtime resident of D.C. and know the area well, but my part of the world -- the Real Northern Virginia :giggle: -- has stupendous roads that are in relatively easy reach for you.

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    Aside from the obvious terrain features on the map that make for grand riding, here's a video example of a road that starts 1/2 mile from my driveway:



    So, Maggiore, if you don't already know some or many of those, come out to Cross Junction some time (uhm ... let's wait 'til spring for the ride, tho wrenching and benchracing are year-long activities at the Moto Grappa. :rofl:

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    Best,

    Bill
     
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    To be honest, I find the new V7 less comfortable than my old Royal Enfield... I put a slightly lowered Biltwell seat on the Enfield, and pulled back the bars a bit, and had a perfect riding position for me. The V7III feels just a bit too upright to me, and I don't like how the seat forces me forward. And I really don't like the position of the foot pegs, which are right where I want to put my feet every time I stop. And since I do almost all city riding I am putting my feet up and down constantly, and constantly banging on the foot pegs. I am just about ready to put it into winter storage, but come spring I think I will put a flat seat on it and new bars with more pullback. That should give me a more relaxe position, and I hope also allow me to put my feet comfortably and consistently behind the pegs.

    Having said all that, there is certainly much to like about the new Anniversario! My problem with the Enfield was not comfort but rather the lack of power (at 500cc) and quality of construction. With regard to the latter, from the day I got it I had problems with shifting that I could never get straightened out, as well as problems with stalling due (apparently) to fuel mapping. I also had, in less than two years, a blown shock and kickstart gasket, and a rear drum brake that locked up at the drop of hat. Needless to say the V7III has much better pick up, much smoother shifting, and much more reliable braking. (Though it does seem to me like it could use more torque in the lower gears.) And overall quality of construction seems better, though only time will tell I guess.

    Looks like some very nice riding over in your neck of the woods! I may well take you up on the invitation to go for a ride come spring. I am in MD, just outside DC,, but might be worth a trip... Thanks!


     
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    Did you get used to the position of the pegs and adjust how you put your feet down before you put the bike to bed? If not, you probably will in the spring.
    Let’s have a photo now and a photo when you make your changes. It’s always good to see how others make subtle (or not-so-subtle) changes to the standard machine.
     
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    Will keep you posted. So far the only thing I've done is put on the side bag from Baak, along with their replacement fairing on the other side of the bike. Like these plain metal fairings better than stock. I have not been able to ride it due to whether for a couple of weeks I guess, but rode it to work this morning on a nice sunny day. My pants have cuffs, and they kept getting caught on those pegs! So I will definitely be working on that before spring. Planning to put on either LSL Brooks bars or Baak's N01 handlebars, both of which should give me more pull back, and then a flatter seat (probably Baak's).

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