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Rear fender mounting tabs broken

kdirtrider

kdirtrider

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I brought home a new Cali 1400 Custom a couple of weeks ago. During the first ride my buddy noticed the license plate bracket and fender bouncing a lot when following behind. I now have 500 miles on the bike and notice that the fender is vibrating really bad when idling. Took the seat off and noticed both mounting tabs for the rear fender are broke. Anyone else have this problem? Looks like a bad design. :( :(
 
You don't mention which mounting tabs are broken.

The mounting bolts have a reputation for coming loose. There was a technical bulletin (012-2013) which specifically mentioned the two bolts under the rear fender (#9 AP8152278 Screw w/ flange M6x16 in the parts diagram) should have Loctite added to the threads and retorqued to 10Nm. However, I have also experienced the three bolts above the fender (#5 AP8152285 Screw w/ flange & #6 AP8152273 Screw w/ flange M5x16 in the same diagram) coming loose even after the ones in the bulletin were tightened. A couple of months later, I found another bolt on the rear subframe which supports the rear of the fender missing.

Hmmm. Note to oneself. Must be time to recheck these bolts. You should be able to get a replacement fender under warranty, especially if the mounting tabs are the same as referred to in the bulletin.
 
It is the tabs under the seat, just above the battery on both sides.

Looks like the fender is being stressed. Maybe the sub frame bracket is bent slightly.

Guess I'll call the dealer.
 

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Only the plastic fender is broken. The plastic fender follows to curve of the frame and subframe for mounting. Appears curve of the metal doesn't match the plastic so the plastic is being bent to the shape of the metal which puts stress on the plastic at the mounting points. Probably broke when I hit the first Michigan pothole in the road during the first ride.
 
Update: Dealer replaced fender under warranty. Technician told me it's not the first one they have replaced with same issue. Got it home and rode 150 miles and noticed bolts were loose again on the rear sub bracket. Guess Guzzi didn't test on Michigan roads!
Pulled the fender off and removed the clips Guzzi used. Both were cracked. Replaced with lock nuts and blue loctite.

Buy the way...I love this bike!!
 
Hello,

Mine broke and the bolts were tight. yes it does not follow frame and looks like undue stress was applied.
Also....sigh is any having issues with water getting into headlight and tail light assembly. ... and speedometer
fogging up so bad at times you cant read it?...Wow if wasn't so fun to ride........

Mike
 
Affirmative on water getting into headlight and taillight. I am sending pics to Dave Richardson at Moto International where I purchased the bike to get his opinion regarding a warranty issue.
 

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It just happened to me.

The left fender mounting tab (under the seat), is broken just past the reinforcement 'ribs'. There appears to be a lot of stress involved, as the broken tab (remaining on the fender) is now 15mm in the air. It takes a bit of pressure to push the broken tab down until it is flush with the fender retaining bolt (and what's left of the tab retained under the bolt).

Oh, and this happened at less than 400 miles.

I certainly hope that this is a stateside part. Else it could be a few months.
 
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Had a chance this weekend to take apart my rear fender assy and lo and behold my right fender plastic tab is cracked and the fender subframe metal post (middle top fender bolt) tab is completely sheared off. Also missing right M6 subframe screw that probably started the whole ball rolling. Got a warranty claim into the dealer, waiting to hear back. In the meantime I blue-locktited some M6 screws into the clasps (they weren't compromised) and I'm good till the snow flies. Lot less shaking going on but I wouldn't feel safe carrying a passenger with the seat grabrail compromised.

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UPDATE- Dealer ordered, received (in less than a week from MG) and replaced the rear fender and its subframe - no charge warranty.
I suggested to mechanic to reverse the order of the seat grabrail/plastic tabs (as I had already done) to minimize stress on the plastic fender tabs. Normally the metal grabrail would be bolted on top of plastic tabs which add extra stress pushing them down anywhere from 1/4" to 1/2 " to bolt tight. On non-grabrail installs, reccommed using collar spacers or some other device to bring the bolted-down depth to approx. the same height as the plasic tabs' normal (unbolted) rest position.
 
jbhotchkiss said:
Affirmative on water getting into headlight and taillight. I am sending pics to Dave Richardson at Moto International where I purchased the bike to get his opinion regarding a warranty issue.
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Dave came through for me again! New taillights will be sent to me after I send mine in. Lookee what I found on the back of each of the lights...
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Fast1400 said:
Had a chance this weekend to take apart my rear fender assy and lo and behold my right fender plastic tab is cracked and the fender subframe metal post (middle top fender bolt) tab is completely sheared off. Also missing right M6 subframe screw that probably started the whole ball rolling. Got a warranty claim into the dealer, waiting to hear back. In the meantime I blue-locktited some M6 screws into the clasps (they weren't compromised) and I'm good till the snow flies. Lot less shaking going on but I wouldn't feel safe carrying a passenger with the seat grabrail compromised.

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After removing the fender to pull the taillights, noticed missing m6 subframe bolt on the left, and then noticed that as a result the subframe is loose. Jeezzz, come on Luigi!
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Thanks guys... I'll jump on this, when it returns from rental duties this weekend. Guess I should spend some time with everything hidden under the plastics, before things fall off and go missing.
 
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