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Relays Under the Cover...?

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Touringman

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First a note: On a scale of 1-10 my electrical knowledge is about a 3.5...so be nice.

While chasing an odd "no start" situation on the 1400 T this morning, I pulled the right side cover off the bike and opened the two boxes that said RELAYS on top. There I found 6 identical relays, with no identification anywhere as to what any of the 6 relays control.

Anyone here know what the relays control? or at least what relay number they correspond to on the wiring diagram, since the diagram bears NO resemblance to the actual position of the relays on the bike.

Since there are two boxes with 3 relays each, from right to left: box1 Relays 1,2 &3 box2 Relays 4,5 & 6.
Any help here would be appreciated.

FWIW: after wiggling each relay and making sure they were all seated in the sockets firmly. The bike fired right up....??

Thanks in advance!!
Kirk
 
Sounds like the 1400 is in line with all older Guzzis then. Other than the well noted igntion/key issue, the C14 has been relatively trouble free so far that I am seeing on this type of problem.
The "relay dance" of the '98-12 1100's required occasional removal/reinstall to clean the connections, or moving them one position to find the problematic one.

Sounds like you got it going, but thanks for posting.
 
I would like to know if anyone has ever found a way to cross-reference the Aprilia / Piaggio electrical relay part numbers on the (2014) 1400 Cal Touring bike? The six relays spoken of are, presumably, Part #895907 (currently a special order from AF1 Racing and a 4-6 month wait to ship). Other relays on the bike are the "MG relay", Part #8224262, and the Injection Relay, Part #895481 (presently shipping in 4 to 6 weeks from AF1 from the time it is ordered). Yes, I have searched for hours through multiple posts for multiple Moto Guzzi bikes here and on the internet, and did not find a simple cross reference where I could look up the Aprilia or Piaggio number and see an equivalent relay from another manufacturer. (The #8224262 seems easier to get; for example, Mitsuba RC-2208 or L5A, but are they configured the same, since some online stores use "stock" relay photos?) I even contacted Dan Prunuske at DPGuzzi.com (thanks to a 2015 post by John Zibell who, by the way, has also posted equivalent relay numbers for other bikes, God bless him) and Dan said he basically carries the relays for the Tonti and 1100 Sport models from 92-12.
I think some of us would like to know what the equivalent relays are for these 1400 Cal bikes, as it is remarkable what a task I am finding it to be to source good, readily-available relays here in the USA without having to source them from Europe, Australia, or used on Ebay. I thank you for any pointers. May the Forum members who know far more than I about things electrical have mercy on my wretched soul.
 
I am no electrician and know nothing about the 1400. But you can take that relay into any auto parts store and get another with the same connecter pattern. With the old 98+ 1100 set up I just used all 5 prong relays even if it only used 2-3 of them. Couldn't screw it up that way and just rotating them forward fixes the problem, usually.
Historically Guzzi relays suck!
 
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