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Sensor Problem in colder temps?

jonesar

jonesar

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On first starting in the am with an ambient temperature of approx 60F or lower, the neutral light will not come on when the key switch is turned on. I also get a "service" and the red triangle symbol on the display. The bike won't start at that point unless I get on it, bring the sidestand up and pull in the clutch.
This issue clears up once the engine warms up (5 or 10 miles down the road. The neutral light will then come on normally. The "service" message goes off just after starting off.
I suspect this is a sensor problem but wonder if anyone has encountered this problem and discovered the solution?
 
No other dashboard issues, other than the messages I already mentioned.
When I first noted this problem during the winter months - I did check the sidestand switch. I will recheck it though.
 
Hi, Pete: I've got a bit of condensation in one corner of the dash. I made a pre-emptive strike by sealing the wheel speed sensor with silicone. rode in the rain once a couple months ago, had a brief issue of speed not reading that disapeared after a mile. I parked the bike in the rain overnight last night and now have ZERO speedo and odometer function, SERVICE in big letters in the display, and the red triangle idjit light lit. Bike runs normally and fuel gauge, lights, etc work normally. (Computer shows NO dashboard or ECU error codes by the way)

Dash or wheel sensor??

If the sensor, whats the proper technique (and substance) for sealing the sensor cable?
(I removed the rear wheel and sensor and smeared silicone RTV sealant where the cable enters the sensor; this was before I had any problems, BTW)
 
I haven't yet had to do it to any of the bikes I've dealt with. I just warranty 'em if they go bad. PM Wayne, he's done his with some special gloop I think.

I have a bit of condensation in my dash and keep meaning to take it off for a looksee and re seal the cover with silicone but I just haven't got round to it yet. What I'll do I dry it with a hairdrier first and then re-seal the face. That way there should be no water vapor inside to form condensation.

One of my customers baked his, with the cover off, in a VERY low oven for about 15 minutes and that worked too.

Pete
 
When my speedo sensor failed when in a light rain. I did this:

1) Placed a light bulb NEAR it for hours. (used an IR thermometer to keep it around 170F for a long time)
2) It ensured it was working again and left it in the heat for more hours.
3) While hot, I coated it with this goop called liquid tape. Mainly getting it to suck it in around the wire.
4) After it cooled a while and before it hardened I wiped off the excess.

Cured it for me. May be overkill. May be better to warranty it.

BTW, some silicone sealant should NEVER be used near electronics. It is highly corrosive. Look for non-corrosive stuff if that is what you use.
 
All very easy to 'warrenty it'. But all these reoccuring sensors and leaky dash's are going to be bloody expensive after the warrenty expires, or as Guzzi know thy have these problems, will they honour a new dash after the warrenty expires ?
 
No idea, but the principle I work on is if I make enough of a PITA of myself and if every other dealer did too then eventually the Piggio-tards might decide to buy their dashboards and electrical shit from domeone other than the mouth-breathers at digitek.

There are no 'Magic Wands' to be waved here Gary. Pissing and moaning will achieve nothing. Hitting 'em in the only place it hurts, their bottom line, is the only way we're likely to get results.

Pete
 
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