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  1. bigpants

    bigpants Just got it firing!

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    Hi everyone. I've noticed that my rear tyre on my 1100 sporti

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    Does not look central with the rear shock and spine frame and on checking the wheel alignment the back is 9mm off. I cant rule out a twisted frame but just wondered , should the rear wheel centreline run straight through the shock lower mount as a guide or is the offset normal ?
     
  2. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    Send a private message to:

    MedicAndy

    He owns like 8 (yes, eight I think) 1110 Sports and is probably the most knowledgeable about that model on the site.

    He will be able to tell you the answer.
     
  3. V700Steve

    V700Steve High Miler GT di Razza Pura

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    Service manual page 108 shows swing arm centerline from top shock mount is 8mm from center of swing arm main cross(where pivot pins are located). On page 94 frame specs drivetrain is 8mm off center in frame. Nowhere does is say where center of rim is located. Loctite the bolt on rear drive that will back out into your rim and ruin it.
     
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    Hippo-Drones Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Looks like you are suffering a bit of cold tear there too
     
  5. bigpants

    bigpants Just got it firing!

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    Hmm . Looking at the pics in the book it looks like the centreline from the headstock runs straight down through top shock mount and to the lower shock mount so the tyres centreline should line up perfectly and the chassis side plates are 8mm offset. Still not sure though. Tbh I've gone over so many numbers and options in the last few days I think I've gone number blind. 20201202_112808.jpg 20201202_112824.jpg
     
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    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    Did you ask MedicAndy like I told you?

    He need only look at his collection to answer your question but more than likely he simply knows it in his head.

    I swear sometimes....

    You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
     
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  7. bigpants

    bigpants Just got it firing!

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    Hi Scott. Yup I've sent andy a message but full disclosure I was slow to do it.
     
  8. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    Good. I’m dead serious.

    Nobody here will know more about that model than him. It’s his obsession.

    This was when he had only 5 I think, or only when he left out duplicate colored ones.

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  9. bigpants

    bigpants Just got it firing!

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    Jees. I've only got the one guzzi and that takes up most of my life. I am definitely doing something wrong.
     
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  10. bigpants

    bigpants Just got it firing!

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    V700Steve High Miler GT di Razza Pura

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    That's what I thought, center is top shock mount. BUT your bike has a cush drive wheel, could move it over a bit. They are different. I have both for my LM3 conversion, you can't cut the hub on cush drive wheel like I needed to do.
     
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    Raven High Miler GT Famiglia

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    bigpants, that bike is definitely one of a kind.
     
  13. bigpants

    bigpants Just got it firing!

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    So I've just taken this dished washer out from behind the rhs spacer which has gained me quite a bit. I'm now 25mm one side 22 the other. I'm not sure of the implications of removing the washer but I'll hopefully get a test ride tomorrow. It also occurred to me that I could bring the RH sideplate out with judicious use of washers but now it's all beginning to sound bodged. 20201202_190802.jpg
     
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    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    I wouldn’t do that. You are simply being reckless here as that washer serves 2 functions; spacing and component protection.
     
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    V700Steve High Miler GT di Razza Pura

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    That holds your needle bearing cage in for box rotation, I would leave it in place also. Make sure it is greased.
     
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    bigpants Just got it firing!

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    Ok , fair enough . Putting it back in . Always happy to told when I'm doing it wrong.
     
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    Bigbear Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    This is all very interesting,
    I do notice (with a bit of jealousy), our friend MedicAndy's picture indicate the front & rear bikes are non injected by looking at the diff's.
    Am I correct? The injected ones have the cush drive diff same as big pants & I think therein possibly lies the set-up difference?
    Got me wondering so will go & check the alignment of my carb'd 1100 Sport now.
    PS - scottmasrocinque has your collection has grown since we last posted?
     
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    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    LOL. Good God I hope not. I have 8 and I think I need to get my head examined sometimes. There's a 2007 Kawasaki EX500 Ninja that's not listed but I'm going to be selling her in the Spring.

    Trouble is, I'd love a new V85 TT. Resist...resist...resist the temptation!

    Happy New Year to All!
     
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