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Stelvio headlight upgrade comments
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eimers01
Tuned and Synch'ed
I installed a pair of Xenon HID in my headlights.
Look at the diffirence between Halogen and Xenon:
Look at the diffirence between Halogen and Xenon:
eimers01 wrote:
Where did you buy your kit? I have had to return 2 so far.
Where did you buy your kit? I have had to return 2 so far.
eimers01
Tuned and Synch'ed
bigtex wrote:
I bought 2 kits by TLM in Nijmegen Holland.
http://www.tlm.nl/magazijn/webshop/detail.html?aid=17295
But it is a lot of work to install them (without a manual)
It took me and a technical friend of my appr. 9 hours to install the two kits.
You have to figure out where to place the two "ballasten" (i can't translate it)
You have to remove nearly all of the bodywork, and that is a lot of screws!
And you have to make adjustments to hole of the headlights. Broaden it to fit.
greetz
Dikkiedik
I bought 2 kits by TLM in Nijmegen Holland.
http://www.tlm.nl/magazijn/webshop/detail.html?aid=17295
But it is a lot of work to install them (without a manual)
It took me and a technical friend of my appr. 9 hours to install the two kits.
You have to figure out where to place the two "ballasten" (i can't translate it)
You have to remove nearly all of the bodywork, and that is a lot of screws!
And you have to make adjustments to hole of the headlights. Broaden it to fit.
greetz
Dikkiedik
eimers01
Tuned and Synch'ed
Wonder B wrote:
Wonder,
Where do you live?
Wonder,
Where do you live?
Brian UK
GT Reference
The HID lights are alo illegal in the UK as aftermarket fitments. In fact probably the same throughout the EU, certainly unless the lights are "E" marked, which most are not.
WayneOrwig
GT Reference
There aren't legal here in the US, but it is generally not enforced. Too bad to, because people install them poorly and blind you, but nobody does anything about it.
Wayne Orwig wrote:
Wayne, you sure? Almost every luxury car, $30k and up (some less of course) comes with HIDs standard, and Victory Motorcycles used to deliver them standard on the last generation Cruisers. The lens assembly was built by JW Speaker, and I run one on my Jackal. Nice piece (shown in the action pic at the bottom as well):
WayneOrwig
GT Reference
GT-Rx wrote:
You are correct. Even my wifes car has them (and I dislike them, see long rant below..).
But, to be legal the entire unit must be made for them (the reflector in particular). Just shoving an aftermarket HID one in an H4 reflector is not legal. The plasma light 'envelope' from the HID bulb is much larger then a small H4 filament, so focusing is different.
As far as I know, no legal bulb inserts yet exist. Though they are getting better at building in moving shields and such. Now an entire headlight, that could be a different story altogether.
(I was led to understand the vehicle needed an active auto leveling suspension in order to use them too, but that may not be true)
[rant]
My wifes Lincoln Mark VIII has HID bulbs.
1)They don't last as long as you might expect. Now that it is over 10 years old, Sylvania has decided to abandon production of that bulb style. I can no longer repair a burned out bulb. I have had two go bad in the 10 years of ownership.
2)The blueish light is a bad idea. At first, you notice how bright road signs are and the first impression is that they are great. Then you start to realize that items you NEED to see (deer, the side of the road, etc.) aren't illuminated well by that bluish light. If you must get them, avoid the blue color temperature lights for many reasons.
3) They are far from instant on. Drive into a tunnel, need light, too bad, you need to wait a few seconds. (a none issue on a motorcycle with them on full time, but you can not use one for high beam unless you take the low beam one and refocus/move it quickly)
[/rant]
You are correct. Even my wifes car has them (and I dislike them, see long rant below..).
But, to be legal the entire unit must be made for them (the reflector in particular). Just shoving an aftermarket HID one in an H4 reflector is not legal. The plasma light 'envelope' from the HID bulb is much larger then a small H4 filament, so focusing is different.
As far as I know, no legal bulb inserts yet exist. Though they are getting better at building in moving shields and such. Now an entire headlight, that could be a different story altogether.
(I was led to understand the vehicle needed an active auto leveling suspension in order to use them too, but that may not be true)
[rant]
My wifes Lincoln Mark VIII has HID bulbs.
1)They don't last as long as you might expect. Now that it is over 10 years old, Sylvania has decided to abandon production of that bulb style. I can no longer repair a burned out bulb. I have had two go bad in the 10 years of ownership.
2)The blueish light is a bad idea. At first, you notice how bright road signs are and the first impression is that they are great. Then you start to realize that items you NEED to see (deer, the side of the road, etc.) aren't illuminated well by that bluish light. If you must get them, avoid the blue color temperature lights for many reasons.
3) They are far from instant on. Drive into a tunnel, need light, too bad, you need to wait a few seconds. (a none issue on a motorcycle with them on full time, but you can not use one for high beam unless you take the low beam one and refocus/move it quickly)
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StormShearon
Cruisin' Guzzisti
I think that the after market HID units are not legal - factory installed are fine. The after market are not tested so as to have the all important 'US Federal Government Seal of Approval with appropriate fees paid'. Kind of like non-DOT approved after market exhaust systems - technically illegal becasue not tested, but that condition not really enforced. Just a thought.
Well, the standards aren't exactly new, AFAIK. Look at about any Jap bike with double optics. Most all use one for low, the other for high (with the low kept burning).
There is something about a minimum distance between the lights. On the Norge, the spread is apparently wide enough to allow both low beams to be on at the same time, but the high beam projectors are very close, I'm not sure how that tunes in with said standards.
It's clear that when I do a 'continuous flash'
, I get quite a good lighting ... what with 4 bulbs and some 240W shining up the road!
There is something about a minimum distance between the lights. On the Norge, the spread is apparently wide enough to allow both low beams to be on at the same time, but the high beam projectors are very close, I'm not sure how that tunes in with said standards.
It's clear that when I do a 'continuous flash'
, I get quite a good lighting ... what with 4 bulbs and some 240W shining up the road!