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The Guzzi 850 T5 Cafe Racer Project

Discussion in 'Custom Guzzi Builds' started by judgefargo, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. judgefargo

    judgefargo Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Yeah I realised last night that would have to be parallel... , or would have to press both hehe. Thanks for that.

    Regarding the flash high beam, had not thought about it. However I normally drive motorcycles with the light always on to improve visibility, so maybe it wont be a problem, will have to think about it.

    I really appreciate your comment mate, thanks ever so much.

    I will correct the diagram today and probably modify a little further. Will repost just in case anyone needs it.


     
  2. Ed Rusnak

    Ed Rusnak Just got it firing!

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    Nice bike. Love the tank!

    I have that same battery plate and it is nice quality.
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    Also, for the battery, I have a full size battery under the bike, but you have to lose the center stand. You can see it in the pic below, but most people don't notice it when you walk up to the bike.

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    judgefargo Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Beautiful work there mate, you can tell a lot of hours went into the bike, my cons.

    I did consider battery beneath the engine/back arm as you have placed, but am going to try and squeeze it under the seat first.

    I received the battery plate and yeah, the quality is really good, very impressed.

    Got all the electric components except the cables which have not arrived yet, frustrating for it is Easter and wont be here so goodbye to my free time and doing it over the holidays...

    Stand is going for sure, its a little on the heavy side, plus I have the side stand on mine.

    Thanks for posting your photos Ed, lovely to see your bike, sublime paint job on that engine by the way, it looks spotless from the photos!

    Take care and ride safe all,
    J




     
  4. Garthy

    Garthy Just got it firing!

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    Hi
    So I just pretty much finished my T4.
    I can answer a couple of your questions.

    Battery so lithium ion 320 amp is enough. Mine sits up kind of under the seat but is so thin at 76mm that you can't really see it.

    Wiring I ditched mine and got a motogadget blue. This is a total winner. Made the wiring simple, basically you plug the switches into one side of box and the functions into the other and then all is well.

    Rear master cylinder, well there is the cafemachine mount it on the swing are pivot idea, or make a plate and mounted the plate to the chassis join bolts. This worked for me but I put my foot pegs quite fwd as I'm old. I actually used the gear lever pivot hole to mount.

    This made for a simple gear change linkage.

    I like your forks and tank but budget etc...

    Garth
     
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    Garthy Just got it firing!

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    Be ultra careful about the 2 red wires that emerge from the dyna box. If you mix them up one side of the dyna box will be fried (I did this). Quite why they have 2 red wires kind of eludes me, there are so many colors....
     
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    judgefargo Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Hi Garth

    Thanks ever so much for your reply.

    I had seen the motogadget blue, but I thought that it was quite an expensive acquisition... Maybe if It does get to complicated for me I redesign the electrical system and go down that route. Switches in one side and elements out the other definitely sounds appealing!

    I have checked and the motogadget blue is listed at around 330€. Would that be correct?

    Regarding the braking linkage, I will probably custom build something in the end, or if not go for the cafemachine solution.

    I will have the RED RED situation in mind when getting to that part!!!!!

    Once again thanks ever so much for helping me out.

    Ride safe, and lets see a few pics of your bike!!


     
  7. Garthy

    Garthy Just got it firing!

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    judgefargo Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Wow nice one.

    Now I see what you meen with the brake pump!

    For now regarding the electrical system I have:
    A new Dynatek Electronic Ignition + Dynatek coils
    A new Regulator/Rectifier
    A Lion Battery
    A basic blade fuse box

    I think that is about it.

    Would you be able to give me a glimpse at your electrical diagram? I'm very tempted now to go for the Motogadget seeming how easy you put it in comparison! hehe

    Thanks Garth, all the best,
    Jake


     
  9. Garthy

    Garthy Just got it firing!

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    Garthy Just got it firing!

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    Funny enough that is where I am going to place the coils also! Hehe

    I hadn't thought of putting the fuse box there. My idea was to put all electric under the seat, except for the Regulator which will be going on the front of the bike underneath the headlight.

    Once my pal gets back from his holiday I'll ask him what he thinks and get cracking with the electrical system.

    Cheers mate, I'll keep you posted!

     
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    Thanks for all the pics Garth. This is all going to help me in my build as well.
     
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    Fun guys, keep the pics coming. Just FYI, there’s a reason the factory rubber mounts electronics. I strongly suggest you do as well unless you’re building a show (only) bike. Cheers.
     
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    Hi Garth,
    Do you have a part number for the 320A battery you are using? Thanks!
     
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    Thanks mate

    Will have that in mind for sure!

    Ride safe,
    Jake


     
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    Hi Garth

    You have got me pretty convinced with the Motogadget M-Unit. I think I'm going to bite the bullet.

    However I would like your opinion on the two options: Basic or Blue?
    Is it worth paying the extra buck for the bluetooth functionality?

    Let me know when you can, I'll probably purchase it in the coming days.
    Once again thanks for your help, have a good weekend,
    Jake


     
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    judgefargo Tuned and Synch'ed

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    So lads

    I bought the Motogadget M-Unit Basic, started with the electrical system, then saw a superb video on youtube from Revival Cycles, explaining all the additional features of the Blu, so sent it back and updated...
    Just wanted to let you know in case you are thinking of buying one of these units. It seems like they are super configurable, and doing so from ones mobile phone with clear instructions is much more efficient that having to install an analog switch on the unit and fiddling with that. Also the bluetooth version gives detailed information of all settings and conditions of the bike, plus you can set an alarm and also do funky things like start the bike from your phone (not that you will ever do).

    Hope this gives you all some useful info, all the best,
    Jake
     
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    judgefargo Tuned and Synch'ed

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    On another mater, I was wondering if any of you can resolve the following query I have?

    From the top of my engine, specifically just above the crank case before the pistons, there is a hosepipe that goes straight into the chasis, and then it has multiple breath tubes that go down.

    I see Garth has cut these tubes off the chasis, and I would be interested in doing the same thing, however was wondering what do you do with the orifice where the pipe was connected? There seems to be a valve with a ball joint in it to let air/oil out, so am guessing this is some type of breathing system. Is there any kind of after market compact filter or alternative system to go on it?

    Thanks all for your help, will be posting photos soon as starting the project once again aiming for a late summer ride!

    Ride safe!
     
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    That is the crankcase breather, and very important. Some race bikes have a long hose that ends with a small K&N style filter, as you'll need a little hose volume to keep it from misting oil all over (unless you don't mind that)... or there are a few breather box options (stock or aftermarket) from other models.
     
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    judgefargo Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Thanks for the prompt reply. I understand the idea.

    I will look around and see which would be the most efficient and convenient at the same time solution.

    There seems to be a lot of breathers on this bike!

     

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