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The truth about fuel stabilizer - Fortnine

Discussion in 'Chat & Tech Info' started by Mayakovski, Nov 1, 2020.

  1. Mayakovski

    Mayakovski High Miler GT Famiglia

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    The folks at Fortnine are again taking us to school with knowledge and humor. A worthwhile watch.



    Enjoy
     
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    Raven High Miler GT Famiglia

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    That was fun. I like that guy and that company.
    Personally I don't put anything in my bike in winter. It's stored in my 12 x 16 entrance/mudroom at a comfortable 20 C and I talk to it every day and tell it everything is going to be fine as soon as April rolls around. It's seems content with this scenario.
    My last ride is usually in mid November and my first ride is usually around March 20th. So only about 4 months of down time. (thankfully) I'm already getting anxious thinking about withdrawal and PMS.
     
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    Mayakovski High Miler GT Famiglia

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    Good approach, I talk to my girl daily as well. We count down the days until riding again. :h:
     
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    xchristian Just got it firing!

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    I am a reluctant fan of F9. I consistently find myself watching their videos. Really impressed.
     
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    Bill Hagan GT Reference GT Famiglia

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    OK, I'll bite.

    Why reluctant?

    On the merits, wonder if Mr. Shivanekar will get any letters from lawyers representing the maligned products?

    I have used nearly all of those products over the years. $igh.

    My motos are in the heated Moto Grappa during the winter. When I am not there to talk to them, I leave on -- at their request :giggle: -- FM WETA's 24/7 classical-music station. :clap:

    Bill
     
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    xchristian Just got it firing!

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    Sorry wasn't meant to be that cryptic. Only meant he won me over. Initially thought that he seemed to frivolous maybe? Maybe
    privileged ? I watched several of his videos and really came to like his method and presentation. more importantly I kept coming to him any time I had a 'question'. I generally recommend him
     
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  7. Kevin Ballowe

    Kevin Ballowe Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Half of the people say that fuel stabilizer is snake oil, and the other half think it isn't. OK, well..... of those people that have any interest in the subject.

    Stihl offers to double the warranty on new 2-stroke power equipment if ya buy their branded 2-stroke oil that contains fuel stabilizer.

    Next.
     
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    Raven High Miler GT Famiglia

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    By the time your warranty is up you'll have paid the price of the new equipment by using their exorbitantly priced oil.
     
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    davewrites Just got it firing! GT Contributor

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    Well, I feel comfortable about my zero tolerance to ethanol blended fuel and adding Sta-bil. Although, I no longer consider it a silver bullet treatment. It also points to keeping your tank full, with the least amount of air possible.
     
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    That's because there is so much S... oil sold these days. Why invest in the best then run the worst oil in it.

    Raven, sorry but your math sucks.
     
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    Raven High Miler GT Famiglia

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    That depends if you're cutting a few twigs on the weekend or selling firewood commercially.
    Believe me, I know all about oil in chainsaws. I have been cutting and selling 200 to 250 cords of firewood a year for the last 18 years. With Stihl oil you're mainly paying for the name and the "warranty extension".
     
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    vagrant High Miler

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    Correct, but, you are paying for oil that will let the high performance/quality saw engines last their full lifespan without knocking out the main bearing, etc. A Stihl is designed to and will regularly last 2000 hours of serious abuse. the next closest is designed for less than 1/2 that. the discount store units more like 50 hours.
     
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    Wildroamer Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Now I'm not so sure about you, vagrant...you keep talking about Stihl, and I really like my Husqvarna..
     
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    Moto-Uno Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Boy oh boy , can we ever get off topic here :) .
     
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    Hell, I just used extra virgin olive oil, and I was good for about 2000 hours of serious abuse, but then I realized that my warranty wasn’t extended any longer, so I dumped her and got a discount store unit.

    :wasntme::wasntme::wasntme: :D:D:D
     
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    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Oil thread degrade. If this continues there will be a lock on this thread.
     
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    spoil sport!
     
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    King of Fleece Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Snowmobilers know the value of Sta-Bil.
    My good friend owns a power sports business. Where we live toys are seasonal. Sleds, bikes, and such. His shop is busy all year cleaning carbs on the old stuff that's not put to bed correctly. Sled carbs in early fall, snow throwers, you get the idea. it's not hard to correlate the machines that need attention to the machines that follow the standard winterize/summerize procedures.
    On the fuel injected stuff it's more of seeing gas go bad in the tank-which he also sees in neglected carb stuff.

    When a shop sees hundreds of units each year and the same issues pop up with the same prep procedures-well, it's not hard to draw a few conclusions.

    FWIW-any experienced two stroke mechanic will tell you Yamaha Ring Free (now Engine Rx) works better than anything. A sample of several is small- a yearly sample of hundreds tells a bit more.
     
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    I watched that F9 video and it surprised me how horrid the fuel stabilizers performed. My personal method of storing engines for long periods was to use 100% gasoline (no ethanol), fill up the fuel tank, and drain the carburetor. I had been using Seafoam as a general fuel stabilizer, to keep the gasoline from losing as much of its volatile vapors as it would without any stabilizer. All of my small engines run 100% gasoline as it is, anyway. Generators, power washers, lawn mowers, etc. They all seem to prefer regular gasoline without ethanol. I run ethanol fuel in my motor vehicles, but so far I have kept to the 100% gasoline in my '14 V7. If I am out and have to refuel with 10% ethanol fuel, I run the tank out as quickly as I can. But they are always stored overnight with a tank completely topped off with 100% gas.

    So far, so good. They start easily the next time I go to use them, after a pull or two to get gas back in the carbs.
     
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    You’re lucky that you can still buy 100% gas. Not an option in the UK.
     
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