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Thoughts on fuel pressure and lean condition

Discussion in 'BNS12 Chat & Tech' started by NPS, May 18, 2019 at 1:19 AM.

  1. NPS

    NPS Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Today the fuel condition suddenly changed on my Breva 11. I have an air fuel ratio meter on the bike linked to a wide band so I was able to see a different AFR and a loss of power.

    The problem was the usual 13.5 to 15 AFR suddenly changed to 15.5 to 16.5 range at any engine speed and throttle opening above 1800 rpm.

    When I removed the fuel tank, I noticed that fuel continues to run from the red pipe without stopping. I have only had a few dribbles before so this has changed. I'm wondering if a valve has failed and this is reducing the fuel pressure. The pump sounds the same.

    Any thoughts anyone?
     
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    Fuel should not run from that connector when disconnected, so you do have a problem somewhere. Pull the pump unit out and check.
    And then change the fuel filter for an all metal one if it still has the half plastic version.
     
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    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT Famiglia

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    After what Brian has suggested, find a location to connect a pressure gauge. The fuel system pressure should be about 3 bar or 45 psi. If pressure is less then it is time to replace the fuel pump unit.
     
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    V700Steve High Miler GT Contributor

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    Bike that age I would think a crack in manifold rubbers or in stepper lines to TB's would be first to look for lean condition.
    I get fuel from line but it usually stops at sometime. I would think the built in pressure regulator on the base plate would shut it off w/o pressure coming from pump. I thought some of those are replaceable.
     
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    Got the bike running sweet by temporarily adjusting the ECU Fuel-temperature table by +10%. Makes the bike run better than I have ever known. But I realise a failing fuel pump or valve is something I must checkout and will when the fuel level gets lower in the tank. Thank you Brian, Steve and John for your comments. The rubbers should be fine as I replaced the manifolds last year and the stepper motor tubes are ok on visual inspection.
     
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