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Time to Re-Tire : )

Discussion in 'BNS12 Chat & Tech' started by Blitztour, May 18, 2013.

  1. Bill Hagan

    Bill Hagan GT Reference GT Famiglia

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    I "liked" and agree with BrianR's statement about tires generally. Tire technology for all vehicles has come so far so fast that it worries about how I used to ride on "old tech" tires of only 10 years ago. :(

    Now, all of that said, Brett, who revived this old "tread" -- :giggle: -- asked specifically about tires that were "not looking for adventure tires, just something that will assist in gravel traction and not be chewed to pieces over 50-100 km of gravel."

    I am not sure that the standard sport-tourer tires mentioned fit that bill.

    I try hard not to be the tire version of a die-hard "Ford, Chevy, or Dodger" kind of guy. I have nonetheless pretty much gravitated on my Norge to Michelin Road 4 (now on rear) and the just-mounted 5 GT on the front.

    As much as those tires impress me as superb rubber (and whatever else is in there! ;)) for the sorts of riding I do -- i.e., all weather, back roads, technical twisties, and more, including LD, high-speed slab runs that I avoid like the present C19 plague! -- I would not think them necessarily the best for Brett's professed purposes. I have ridden the Norge in gravel, but rarely intentionally and even less for any distances over a few miles. My Stornello "enjoys" that. The Norge and others, not so much.

    I have spent time in Edmonton and environs, but Brett says he wants to go "north" from, I suppose, Edson. Never been there; likely never will. Can't even imagine going north from there on a motorcycle. I am simply not worthy! :happy:

    Anyway, my point is that after trying almost all of the S/T tires on my Norge, I don't think that the "usual suspects" among those are quite the right choice. I am not sure what the answer is, and Brett says he "isn't looking for adventure tires," but I think he might have more "adventure" than he seeks with "regular" S/T shoes.

    1921 - 2021!

    Bill

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  2. BrianR

    BrianR Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    I have the Avon 54's on the Stelvio...smooth on the road, good in the rain and likely can handle fire roads and even loose stuff. Just for info on tire capability, Nick Sanders went round the world on an R1 and used Continental Road Attack ST tires
     
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  3. Brett

    Brett Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Thank you all for your insights on this fine Zombie thread. If I steer clear of fire roads, I will likely go with the Pilot Road 4's for my wife's Norge, I am currently running these. If our route involves some fire roads, I believe I will go with the Angel GT II although I am now intrigued by the Avon 54's and the R1's did make my short list.
     
  4. Robert Villiard

    Robert Villiard Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Had Metzlers on my v1100, but my Norge has new Michelin Pilot sport 5s. Fabulous grip and hard center strip on rear, love these
     
  5. rupert8s

    rupert8s Just got it firing!

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    How's the grip of Pilot Sport 5 in the rain?
     
  6. Robert Villiard

    Robert Villiard Tuned and Synch'ed

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    They were made especially for wet performance. Far better than anything else available
     
  7. BrianR

    BrianR Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Like Robert said, they were designed for the wet and on my Griso they have been excellent both wet and dry, IMO, Michelin and Bridgestone seem to feel better and more planted in the rain here on the Wet Coast of Canada, but that is a "feel" judgement.
     
  8. GTM®

    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    That's a strong statement, and nothing I will waste any time debating... but clearly you've not spent any time on Dunlop Roadsmart IVs. I would challenge you to some track time in the rain on both brands if you'd like. ;)
    The PS5s may get better mileage, but the new RS4 is supposed to at least match the PS5.
    Tire threads are combustive disasters always.
     
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    Brett Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    I officially went with the Pirelli Angel GT II. My wife's Norge has the Angel GT's and have great wear on them now at nearly 10,000 km. that is what pushed me the rest of the way to the GT II's.
     
  10. DeadEye

    DeadEye GT Reference GT di Razza Pura

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    The only people that actually ride their bikes and tires to the edge of their capabilities are Racers,
    Unless all these tires were pushed to their limits in Dry/wet/ loose surfaces by the same Robot with sensors to collect data about everything happening, were all talking about what Blue looks like... to Us ;)

    ( no disrespect intended )
     
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  11. scottmastrocinque

    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    Tire threads are like spaghetti sauce recipes...everybody has their own and that’s what they like, even if you think it tastes like hell...
     
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  12. Robert Villiard

    Robert Villiard Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I had Metzlers on my Balabio V11 loved them! Have Road 5 Michelins on my 08 Norge and they stick as well, hoping for more miles. Only 7k from the Metzlers these Michelins should go over 10k
     
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    scottmastrocinque Scott Mastrocinque GT Famiglia

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    Take phrases like "you should get XXX mileage out of XXX tires" with a grain of salt.

    EVERYBODY is different on their tires. I can destroy a set of the best tires in 2500 miles, or I can go easy on a set and get 7000 miles. It depends upon where and how I am riding, and your mileage will vary too.
     
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  14. Robert Villiard

    Robert Villiard Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Of course riders are different, but i disagree w/your premise that actual data from individual people on their bikes is BAD! It only helps give perpective on certain products ok
     
  15. GTM®

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    Scott's point it valid, and your argument is the very reason that tire threads are horrific. If this keeps going, it all will be deleted.
     
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  16. Blitztour

    Blitztour Just got it firing!

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    Thanks to all
     

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