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V7 III Fuel Filter Not Replaceable?

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by Mayakovski, May 13, 2019.

  1. roadscum

    roadscum Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Hmmmm. I gotta question the capability of your "mechanically minded friends".

    The filter on my V7 Special failed with only about 1.3K miles on the clock leaving me stranded over 800 miles from home. I suggest all owners replace the OEM filter ASAP or risk the same consequence. Even better, have the dealer replace it before taking delivery of a new bike.

    Paul
     
  2. Mayakovski

    Mayakovski Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I hope you discover some trick or maneuver I could not. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    V700Steve High Miler GT Contributor

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    You do have to twist it & turn it. It should do this function w/o any damage.
     
  4. Mayakovski

    Mayakovski Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Tried for over 2 hours, did not come out.
     
  5. V7 Dreaming

    V7 Dreaming Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I thought it is impossible to remove at first too.
    But after I twist it about 70-80 degree CCW and pull it down and lift the upper up (from your plan view not inside, out side), use your hand to pull some wire and hose down to let it out easily, it will come out of tank.
    Sorry I can't explain clearly in English.
     
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    racer-7 Just got it firing! GT Site Contributor!

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    Either your tanks was not made to tolerance-smaller hole—or something moved or broke in the assembly so it wont come out. You may need to cut something off to reduce the size of the assembly. May need to buy the entire assembly.
     
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    Godfrey High Miler GT Famiglia

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    My Ducati 907IE was like that. The fuel filler unbolted from the top of the tank, the pump and filter were way down inside the tank underneath that. The problem there was getting your hands and tools in there to do any work on them ... with large hands, it proved to be a quite frustrating job when I had to replace the filter. I'm sure pulling the Guzzi tank and then removing the mounting plate has its challenges, but at least once you have it out the bits are all accessible and should be easy enough to work on. :D
     
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    jpv7 Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I did my Ducati 900ss that way, and the Guzzi was easier...
     
  9. Mayakovski

    Mayakovski Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Well I tried again, and again no luck. I bribed (beer is very useful) one of the local motorcycle mechanics to come and help me. We worked for an hour and ended up only with cut fingers and bad moods. I think if I was to cut the zap strap holding the filter to the pump and also cut the fuel lines, and apply a lot of pressure it might work but I am not willing to take that risk. It's so frustrating as there is plenty of room to have made the opening bigger so that this was a doable job. But as it is there is no way the pump/filter unit can be removed as a single piece.

    No riding anywhere there is not a Chevon. Kinda limits where I can go. Stupid Guzzi engineers! :banghead: :finger:
     
  10. john zibell

    john zibell Moderator Staff Member GT Famiglia

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    It went in as a unit, so it can come out as a unit.
     
  11. Mayakovski

    Mayakovski Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I agree with the theory, but in practice, two mechanics and two mechanically minded people say no. :)
     
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    when I did the 2017 it went fairly easy. that was 6 months ago.
    I just did the 2015 Saturday. It fought back tooth and nail but I finally won out. as I recall when looking at the hole (that they sure should have made bigger) the right side comes up and out at a goofy angle then the back of the left side first and a whole lot of small little twists and turns later you will be holding that little p^^^k in your hand. Amazingly it seems to pop back in when changed out.
    To be clear the harder you try, the madder you get the more it fights back. It's one of deals where you just need to walk away for a while.
     
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    With all do respect I say again....
    "Hmmmm. I gotta question the capability of your "mechanically minded friends".

    The filter on my V7 Special failed with only about 1.3K miles on the clock leaving me stranded over 800 miles from home. I suggest all owners replace the OEM filter ASAP or risk the same consequence. Even better, have the dealer replace it before taking delivery of a new bike."

    Paul
     
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    John Verburg Just got it firing!

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    Watching the discussion with interest, as I know i will need to do it someday. It appears that your are approaching it two different ways. One to pull it out the top of the fuel inlet, which to me appears impossible as well. and two to take it out from the bottom tunnel side of the tank. Can you or do you know of anyone that has posted a video on this. From the thread it is needed. Can't find a place on the site for this sort of stuff, but Utube should work for it.
    Thanks for the inoformation.
     
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    there is no way to remove it from the fill cap. no video I'm aware of.
     
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    Godfrey High Miler GT Famiglia

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    What vagrant said. I don't quite understand why Mayakovski is having so much difficulty. I haven't done the job myself, but I've seen it done: it's just a little bit fussy and tedious, but certainly possible.

    I'll tell ya about it when I change my fuel filter. When that'll happen, I don't know. The OEM filter is still in there and the bike is running perfectly so far. :) Maybe I'll do it when I get to the 6000 mile service... That's about 1500 miles away.
     
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    I have not done this task, but wonder, given the OP's singular experience, if the gasket has not somehow chemically fused to the tank paint from some fuel contaminant or additive?

    Bill
     
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    I don't think he's saying it's stuck. he just hasn't figured out the contorshion angle.
     
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    Correct.
    The unit unscrews and loosens just fine. I just cannot find an angle or maneuver that allows even a small chance of removal.
     
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    Don't worry! We've got Bills curiosity up now and he has two of the little buggers and we know he has a camera. for a slight fee he just might snap a few, dozen that is.
     
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