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V85 TT Info

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by GT-Rx®, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Vee Too

    Vee Too Just got it firing!

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    I was wondering more if the Strelvio rims could be laced to the V85 hubs.
     
  2. Adam Davis

    Adam Davis Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Todd,

    Why do you think they did away with the CARC final on the v85 machine?Outside of swingarm movement and/or clearances it doesn't make sense to me. Weight savings pehaps... It's not a single sided swingarm but yet shock is set on one side.....????
    Don't get me wrong, I trust the engineering of the brand, (particularly who's in charge of it) but wow. Love my CARC and its rattles, knocking, and clunking. But feels so buttery in its shifting 1st thru 6th under serious throttle. The rear wheel just feels so planted .....

    Anyway, just really interested in this bike. It's got Moab and Fruita trip written all over it. Rocky's revisit perhaps......
     
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  3. GT-Rx®

    GT-Rx® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Cost. That and the small block motor just had the revised swingarm for the V9 wider rim and tire, so they need to ride out that ROI (I guess). Nothing from the big block motor would easily transfer over.
    That would be the cost call of Alpina... but again, price wins I imagine. I expected cast wheels based on conversations with Galluzzi. He said that the cost of cast was impressively affordable, as witnessed with retail wheel pricing.
     
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  4. Brian UK

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    They say a road bike is in the pipeline too, maybe that will have cast wheels to take tubeless.
     
  5. Adam Davis

    Adam Davis Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Todd,
    Not to mention the salt water beach cruise is a pleasant way to finish the day but come morning......"Holy total corrosion lock ups batman".....Salt water will eat any sealed bearings/sealed electronics known to man. Even with a bath in ACF-50. LOL

    The bike is so badass though, gonna get me one of those 2 wheeled off road, tractor motor having moto-cycles..
     
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  6. Lumir Bakota

    Lumir Bakota Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Well, remember there is still the Stelvio NTX out there selling for $17k CAD and less. Not sure how MG could market smaller bike fo higher price. I bought the Stelvio in 2012 for $15k which then looked like tremendous deal compared to anything else in the same league.
     
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    Lumir Bakota Tuned and Synch'ed

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  8. TimmyTheHog

    TimmyTheHog Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    The issues is the price for say Stelvio NTX is already at a discounted price after moving from dealership to dealership...Its a great bike but just not wanted/known to the public.

    My V7 has moved to two different dealerships (now all closed down) before my friend's friend bought it and passed onto my friend (who has a racer) and now to me...(that is a mouthful)...This makes me the true 5th owner of the bike.

    By the time it got to me, it only has 76 KM!...yes you read it right...and I was able to get it for less than 7K Canadian (tax and paperwork in) for literally a brand new bike.

    So you say how MG survive with this kind of things going around?...I seriously don't know and I seriously blame the lack of (knowledgeable) dealers around...

    My local Guzzi dealer is also a triumph/husky dealer...You will see 50 ads/promotions on their triumph bikes such as the new scram1200 before they will even promote a Guzzi unless it is on a huge discount.
     
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  9. Adam Davis

    Adam Davis Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    I have a unique fondness to my machine. It is in fact an extension of myself in regards to how connected I am to the capabilities and handling characteristics of my 1200 8v. From the soft rumble of the 3rd and up gear at 3000- 3400rpm. The total lack of torque in only that particular range is in a way like taking a break from things. But at just a quick down movement into #2 my "tractor motor" can leap forward, without good grip and leave my ass on the ground with a slight crack of the throttle. Will the V85 have that kinda phantom torque at 850cc's? Probably not....well we know so.....but out on a single track trail in the woods do you need it? Do you want it? I'm just dying to find a machine that has dual capabilities on and off road. The V85 may be that other machine that I can connect with. Just can't wait to test her out and see if its hype or real Guzzi talk.....
     
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  10. Poppe

    Poppe Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    I have 3 concerns with the v85tt:

    1) Will the suspension be abysmal and need major work. This seems to be a guzzi signature unfortunately.
    2) Will the dash/screen be bad in the sunlight? I think someone mentioned it's from an aprilia so maybe people already know, but on the BMWs it definitely felt in the right light I'd be losing the screen - many reviews for similar screens have said it was a problem.
    3) Will the engine feel anemic and lack the power for travel or high speed take overs.
     
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    Sorry about going off topic but I would like to comment on this.

    If I am understanding your post correctly then I would suggest that you run your Grizz at higher RPM's.
    My "normal" is 5000 rpm & if I am playing then it is just under 6000.
    4000 is the minimum for me, under that it feels like it is lugging.

    I would never run 3rd in the 3000/3400 range.
    For me that is 1st/2nd gear in traffic riding.

    I have the PCV-AT with Todds mapping & there is no lack of torque from off idle to red line.
     
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    Adam Davis Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Yeh it sounds strange. But I deal with strange speed zones on the islands in which I work. 20mph 25mph 30mph and 35mph(highly enforced). The islands of Marco and Captiva for example. Used to be that annoying slop before changing out original factory silent block that forced me to run at the higher rpm/gear. Now its solid low or high. I was just stating where the torque was at and where it wasn't in the particular gears. And what to expect with the 850 motor in regards to its ratios and trail effectiveness. An 850cc is a lot of motor on two wheels for dancing the bike on a tight dirt trail particularly, if its torqued for the street ride to and from the trail itself.
     
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  13. Michael Boeglin

    Michael Boeglin Tuned and Synch'ed GT Contributor

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    Wow. You work in one of my favorite places, but if I lived there I have to say I’d be looking for something water cooled! Or maybe a scooter :)
     
  14. Adam Davis

    Adam Davis Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Yeh blessed place to work for sure but live 50 miles, give or take from each island. She does just fine here to there. And it loves running hot for sure. I read somewhere someone ran one at idle for 11hours straight. Not a drop of leakage or warp. That's just sick sick engineering..... and a forgetful lucky owner......gooday!
     
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    New luggage for road trip..... 20181216_170911.jpg
     
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  16. Poppe

    Poppe Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Those are sick. Are those the Pack Animals?
     
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    Stradagene Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    I agree with your concerns #1 and #2.
    From my experience with Todd's 820-4V engine in my V7R, my guess is that #3 is not a worry for the V85 TT - unless the bike is exceptionally heavy.
     
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    Stradagene Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Famiglia

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    Did you see the Hepco and Becker Legacy bags that Todd sells? They look pretty similar to these.
    I have the "medium" size mounted to my V7R ~ They're actually relatively small. Perfect for 2-3 days!
    The "large" are probably closer in size (or at least closer in scale, bike:bag) to the packs shown on Adam's Griso.
    https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/v7iii-anniversario-luggage.17592/#post-144042
     
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    Poppe Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    On point 3, my understanding is that the v85tt engine is basically maxed out as far as it can go with the exception of an exhaust and tune tweak. I'm not a great rider so I don't need anything insane, but I'd love the bike to have some legs for easy traveling to and from the trail/camp location. The V7 is great and I love her, but really don't like traveling far distances with the bike on California highways where 80mph is pretty realistic to stay with traffic.

    Oh that's great. I've looked at them a few times. Are those the C-Bow or whatever they're called? I have the Moto Guzzi Rack and been wondering if I should just sell that and get these instead.
     
  20. thomashpsn

    thomashpsn Just got it firing! GT Contributor

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    Used 3M 4412 to go tubeless on my V7. Made the drywall screw I picked up a non-issue.

    Regarding power on the V85, I rode the TAT from KS to OR on a Himalayan. Didn’t break any records but didn’t miss the Multi either. Look forward to taking the Guzzi for a spin once they hit the dealer.
     
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