V85TT Adventure 2020... Should I trade it in for a 2023?

[Docwoodbine]

I have a V85 2020 with 45.000 km, they quoted me half of what I paid brand new for it, is it worth the trade in or I should just stay with it, except for being E5, tubeless and more modes, is it worth doing the trade. I can't make a decision.

 

[lemans850i]

Have you thought about the V 100
Stelvio ... Supposedly coming next year…

 

[scottmastrocinque]

What is the impetus for wanting to trade in for the same thing?

 

[Docwoodbine]

What is the impetus for wanting to trade in for the same thing?

I don't know, i thought I would like to have the tubeless rims, I don't care much about the modes... , but you are right, unless I move to a different bike, I should stay with my 2020

 

[scottmastrocinque]

You can buy the wheels and swap them for less than the sales tax on a new bike purchase would be.

 

[Docwoodbine]

Have you thought about the V 100
Stelvio ... Supposedly coming next year…

I thought of the Stelvio, I wonder how heavy the bike is going to be. I thought of the V100, but for touring and camping I want something able to handle some dirt roads and gravel.

 

[lemans850i]

I thought of the Stelvio, I wonder how heavy the bike is going to be. I thought of the V100, but for touring and camping I want something able to handle some dirt roads and gravel.

I took my Griso off-road Quite frequently… Scorpion on tires on it
And it did very well… Lol (I had no choice just because of the location i was living )
I am sure that a purpose built bike like the Stelvio, will definitely do gravel and off-road!
But you still have time...
You’re not in a hurry… Check it out next year...

 

[john zibell]

I took my Griso off-road Quite frequently… Scorpion on tires on it
And it did very well… Lol (I had no choice just because of the location i was living )
I am sure that a purpose built bike like the Stelvio, will definitely do gravel and off-road!
But you still have time...
You’re not in a hurry… Check it out next year...
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Nice picture of the Stelvio Pass. I have about the same shot from when I was there in the early 90s.

 

[davethewelder]

I wouldn’t trade, if you like tubeless tires look at Outex tubeless kit.

 

[lemans850i]

I finally do have to ask...
Am I the only one who rather has tubes than tubeless tires?

1 . There are fix-a-flat cans That just squeeze the foam into the tube and I’m good again until i find a new tube! (Or I patch it but I rather not with the foam in it)
2 . I don’t have to replace the tire each time I had a hole because I’m afraid the plug pops out and then I experience a catastrophic tire deflation
3 . I don’t run the tire at low air pressure for maximum traction in off-road conditions! (possibility of tearing the valve stem off the tube) I still make markings on tire and rim to see if I have any slippage going on

I just don’t see it...

 

[GerryAZ]

I finally do have to ask...
Am I the only one who rather has tubes than tubeless tires?

1 . There are fix-a-flat cans That just squeeze the foam into the tube and I’m good again until i find a new tube! (Or I patch it but I rather not with the foam in it)
2 . I don’t have to replace the tire each time I had a hole because I’m afraid the plug pops out and then I experience a catastrophic tire deflation
3 . I don’t run the tire at low air pressure for maximum traction in off-road conditions! (possibility of tearing the valve stem off the tube) I still make markings on tire and rim to see if I have any slippage going on

I just don’t see it...

My experience:
Tube-type tires go flat very rapidly so a small hole feels like a blow out. The wheel and tire must then be removed from the bike to make emergency repair. I have never successfully used “fix-a-flat even though I always carried a can when riding on tube-type tires.

Tubeless: Tire generally goes flat slowly giving more time to stop safely. Emergency repairs do not require removal of wheel and tire—just plug, pump, and go. I have sometimes run tubeless motorcycle tires until remaining tread was used (depending upon the type of plug, tire type, and puncture location). Other times, I have replaced plugged tires as soon as possible if repair seemed marginal.

I purchased my 2021 rather than a 2020 that would have been less expensive because I wanted tubeless tires.

 

[Vagrant]

Yes, you are the only one with masochistic tendencies here!

 

[Vagrant]

Back to the original poster, I traded a 2020 with 22-24000 miles on it for a 22. Very happy. No tube wheels, runs much torqueier everywhere, better tuning all around as long as you want to keep the bike stock.

 

[scottmastrocinque]

I finally do have to ask...
Am I the only one who rather has tubes than tubeless tires?

1 . There are fix-a-flat cans That just squeeze the foam into the tube and I’m good again until i find a new tube! (Or I patch it but I rather not with the foam in it)
2 . I don’t have to replace the tire each time I had a hole because I’m afraid the plug pops out and then I experience a catastrophic tire deflation
3 . I don’t run the tire at low air pressure for maximum traction in off-road conditions! (possibility of tearing the valve stem off the tube) I still make markings on tire and rim to see if I have any slippage going on

I just don’t see it...

Tubeless tires are far easier to repair in the field than tube tires. You can get and easily carry a Tire Plugger (“Stop and Go” is a great one) which will inject a permanent mushroom shaped plug into the tire, to repair any normally repairable puncture in less than a minute, refill the air pressure, and you are on your way again. I have plugged many a tire and ran it for years until the tread was completely worn and ready for replacement. This is the finest tire plug device out there in my estimation.

Tubed tires, nope. You cannot do much except Goo type repair and that is a mess! Also, the wheel needs to be removed to be fully repaired.