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V85TT Mods Thread

Discussion in 'V7/V85/V9 Chat & Tech' started by Faisal, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Dah-Dit

    Dah-Dit Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Good news, thanks Chris. Did Teasdale charge for fitting? I'd expressed a desire for them to be fitted at original order....

    Do you mind me asking what they invoiced you?

    Rgds,

    Neil
     
  2. Chris Jessop

    Chris Jessop Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Neil, I supplied the grips (bought from Teo Lamers, Nijmegen @ 229 Euro) and Teasdale charged me 1 hours labour, £84 including VAT. It actually took longer than an hour so I consider it a fair price. I believe mine were the first set they'd fitted. I would have fitted the kit myself but the new ride by wire throttle assembly with the right hand grip has to be calibrated by a dealer.

    I must admit I'm very pleased with Teasdale. Even though I didn't buy the V85 from them (I bought it second hand from Ducati Leeds) they've looked after me really well with the first service, supplying and fitting a centre stand, plus fitting the heated grips.

    I was told that Teasdale are still waiting for their first shipment of Guzzi V85 heated grips but these are expected soon. Teo Lamers have sold all theirs and are waiting for new stock.
     
  3. Dah-Dit

    Dah-Dit Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Thanks Chris,

    Buying the V85TT was my first new bike purchase experience and I found them honest and a good dealer. Mine developed a leak from the RHS cylinder head gasket which was promptly fixed at the first service with no repeat of the fault.

    Does the replacement throttle body have a less-stiff spring installed, or is it a similar action to the original? Just wondered if it would be an added bonus...
     
  4. Chris Jessop

    Chris Jessop Tuned and Synch'ed

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    It does seem a little lighter. I was over revving it when I first set off from Thirsk and it took a few miles before I got used to the feel of the new throttle.
     
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  5. kiwi dave

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    Any chance of measuring the cold resistance of the factory grips? I have several pairs of heated grips, and I was hopeful to adapt a set to my V85, but I'm concerned they might draw too much current and perhaps damage something.
     
  6. Chris Jessop

    Chris Jessop Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Dave, sorry I don't have the instrument to measure the cold resistance.
     
  7. kiwi dave

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    Just a digital multimeter set to ohms will do the job.

    FWIW, I've just installed a set of Oxford OF691 Premium heated grips on my bars, but yet to connect them to the bike. Connected directly to the battery, they draw 3.33 amps @ 12.6V battery voltage (motor not running).

    I'm waiting on the connectors before I try them through the instrument panel. But I'm getting more confident that there won't be a problem, as power in = heat out, and nobody has commented that the factory grips get too hot to handle.
     
  8. Jayell

    Jayell Just got it firing!

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    Can you explain? All one is doing is replacing one grip with another. What's to calibrate? I've installed Oxford grips myself with no trouble.


    There is no replacement "throttle body". Although I think you actually mean throttle tube, even this is not the case. As I mentioned above, you're just replacing the stock grip with a heated version.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong; it happens all the time!
     
  9. Chris Jessop

    Chris Jessop Tuned and Synch'ed

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    Please see attached, the Guzzi kit 2S001325 includes all these parts. The right hand grip comes complete with a new throttle body and that's what needs calibrating. If it was just a case of fitting heated grips I would have done it myself. Although expensive compared to aftermarket kits and it requires fitting/calibrating by a dealer, the Guzzi kit is linked to the TFT display and left hand switch unit.

    I've also attached the V85TT Heated Grips installation manual. See page 17: 'After assembling the kit it is necessary to proceed with a new learning operation of the right hand grip using the P.A.D.S. diagnostic tool'

    Copied from the Teo Lamers website:

    For those who love to travel in all seasons. They contribute to driving comfort, preventing the hands from becoming sore due to the cold. The intensity of the heat is adjustable on three levels managed directly by a button already installed on the V85TT handlebar. The activation of the heating system is visible through an icon on the TFT. -3 intensity levels -Handlebar button activated -Icon on TFT -Ride by wire compatible. Please be aware: The throttle has to be calibrated at an official Moto Guzzi dealer with the factory software after installation.

    I hope that clarifies things.

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  10. kiwi dave

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    Well, it would be nice to be able to fit my Oxford heated grips to the V85 controller.

    But at the end of the day, if I have to use the Oxford controller, I will. there's no way I'm going to dance to a monopoly directive.
     
  11. Jayell

    Jayell Just got it firing!

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    Very clear now. I stand corrected! Thanks Chris.

    I installed my Oxfords in a hurry, so am using the Oxford controller for the time being. When I have more time, I'll wire directly into the Guzzi harness.
     
  12. kiwi dave

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    My Oxford heated grips are replacements for the existing hand grips, so the throttle body stays the same and doesn't need re-calibrating.

    I'm keen too having the grips wired to the harness rather than using the Oxford controller, I'm still waiting on the mating connectors to arrive. Hopefully, I can provide an update in about a week.
     
  13. kiwi dave

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    Well, the mating connectors arrived and they were the wrong size! Damn! I had removed the tank, so continued with a kluge and finally have the Oxfords connected to the V85 connectors. Yes, they appear to work fine, I have the heated grips icon appearing in the dashboard, with three heat settings (+off) available. Not able to go for a long ride, but I have one scheduled in a couple of weeks, which should now be more pleasant.

    For those continuing to chase the Molex connector, it's measurements are 5mm wide, and 8.4mm high, from the rectangular end to the pointed top. The pins are 1.5mm diameter. I couldn't find a suitable model on the interweb, hence the kluge.
     
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  14. Chris Jessop

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    FWIW, the new throttle body does have a lighter spring. We've been for a 200 mile ride today on all sorts of roads and the throttle feels so much better.
     
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  15. Chris Jessop

    Chris Jessop Tuned and Synch'ed

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    The part number for this new cable/wire guide is 2B006501. Teo Lamers put some up for sale this afternoon @ 3.05 Euro and they sold like hot cakes. Luckily I managed to buy one before they all went.

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  16. Wrinkley

    Wrinkley Just got it firing!

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    I've a set of heated grips put aside at Teasdales, just awaiting a set of spotlights as it's apparently easier to fit the lights whilst the tank is off.
    I've provisionally agreed to lend my bike to 'Pyramid plastics' for a couple of weeks while they develop a front fender, rear hugger and hand guard extensions.

    Where are you in Yorkshire Chris ?
     
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  17. Chris Jessop

    Chris Jessop Tuned and Synch'ed

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    We're near Wakefield. Great news about Pyramid and the possibility of a rear hugger.
     
  18. Chris Jessop

    Chris Jessop Tuned and Synch'ed

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    V85TT fork protectors, what brand have owners fitted?

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  19. exit27

    exit27 Just got it firing!

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  20. Breva-Al

    Breva-Al Just got it firing!

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    I may well be interested in the front fender, the Caponord one was supposed to be here 18th Oct but now expected delivery 13th Dec.

    Alan
     
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