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V85TT - spoked wheels with tubes but tubeless Tyres !
- Thread starter Buntyster
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It is just as unsafe as with tires made for tubes. It is just manufactures are making tubeless tires as those are predominately used. Manufactures using spoke wheels that require tubes in this day and age is a bit crazy in my opinion
Brian UK
GT Reference
Absolutely no reason why a tube should not be used inside a tubeless cover. However it would always be best practice to fit tubeless rims too thus relieving you of any need for a tube in the first place.
But Guzzi have always lived in the past.
Wonder if the startus Interruptus fault is still present?
But Guzzi have always lived in the past.
Wonder if the startus Interruptus fault is still present?
What a pity, because not only did I buy the bike, not knowing that it has tubes inside, but it is otherwise a BEAUTIFUL and capable and entertaining bike otherwise. My 3rd Guzzi (2018 V7 III Anniversario, followed by 2018 Audace Carbon, which I sold few days ago) and I love it. MY other bikes currently are 2019 Triumph TIger 1200 XCX and 2019 Husqvarna 401(also with spoked rims and rubes but at least Husqvarna gives an option of standard non-spoked rims as an optional accessory). Unless Guzzi comes with a pair of non spoked rims like Husqvarna, the only option I see is OUTEX. The Triumph Street Scrambler have the same wheel dimensions, and OUTEX have a product for this bike. Maybe in the future they will have it for the V85TT. I have ordered the Triumph Street Scrambler OUTEX from Japan and once I have the courage and time to install them, I will update you guys if the conversion from tubes to tubeless was successful or not !
Does the kit include a rim with the ridge that retains a tubeless tire? Without that ridge, you should still run tubes.
Thanks. From what I gather, 3M is good option too but outex seems a little more robust. The individual nipple cover may be one reason. I already ordered it so will go with that first. Hope it works cuz it is for the Triumph Street Scrambler with exact same rim dimensions....
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I don't know what the MT designation means. You will find out if it has the ridge when you remove the tire.
Where did you order the Outrex from?
How are you enjoying your Anniversario? I had number 10, regret selling it. I had put Mistral exhausts, Custom Seat, crash bar, Dart Flyscreen etc.
Loving it. # 494.
Fantastic bike, way more grins than any other bike I have ridden. I have the Dart screen and Todd's fuel map, plus replaced all lights with LED and an adjustable front brake lever. New pipes and fork internals are next. Just gotta get the budget in place.
Will be interested to find out your experience with the Outrex kit, as I am very interested in doing something similar with my Anniversario.
Mr Neil Mackie
Just got it firing!
Can I ask, how many times do you get punctures? I've not had one in the last 14 years and 48,000 miles on a Transalp (has tubes) on the road (no off road riding). None in 7 years on an ER5 on road (can't remember mileage), 1 front puncture on a Honda Dominator in 8 years, 1 puncture in a week old tubeless tyre on my 91 Triumph 900 Sprint , which cost £120 to replace, about 4 punctures on my CB650z in 165,000 miles and 13 years. An inner tube is about £20. It's just as difficult to remove a tyre without a tube as it is to remove one with a tube, (slightly more care required when fitting them). Is it really worth the expense to convert them using sealing compound and sealing tape?
Vagrant
GT Reference
between the truck, car and 3 bikes I had 7 one year. on bikes they always happen in the first 500 miles of a new tire.
My V7 wheel is sitting on the counter right now with the spokes freshly sealed to get completely dry. spokes suck!
My V7 wheel is sitting on the counter right now with the spokes freshly sealed to get completely dry. spokes suck!
Bisbonian
Cruisin' Guzzisti
I think if I were living in Europe I'd look at the BARTubeless option.
bartfactory.com/products/bartubeless-en/?lang=en
bartfactory.com/products/bartubeless-en/?lang=en
BarryVC
Just got it firing!
When I started riding, all the bikes around had spokes; never gave it a thought. Yeah, I prefer a tubeless set up, but I didn't let that sway me from purchasing my V85tt. My Harley Davidson and my Suzuki both have spokes/inner tubes. I'm not gonna worry about it; but that's just me...
ichimoaz
Just got it firing!
I'm getting ready to attempt to convert my rims to tubeless, and after weighing the options have decided to go with:
sealing the nipples with 3M 5200FC and covering with 3M 4412N tape as a redundancy. Has anyone on the forum done this mod yet? If so, what width tape did you use? Based on my measurements it looks like 2.5" for the rear and 2" for the front. My only concern with sealing the nipples is what to do if i need to "tune' the spokes at a later date. I was thinking of putting adhesive 'dots' over each of the nipples (like the Outex product ) prior to sealing with the adhesive sealant. Any advice or opinions are welcome.
sealing the nipples with 3M 5200FC and covering with 3M 4412N tape as a redundancy. Has anyone on the forum done this mod yet? If so, what width tape did you use? Based on my measurements it looks like 2.5" for the rear and 2" for the front. My only concern with sealing the nipples is what to do if i need to "tune' the spokes at a later date. I was thinking of putting adhesive 'dots' over each of the nipples (like the Outex product ) prior to sealing with the adhesive sealant. Any advice or opinions are welcome.
ichimoaz
Just got it firing!
I'm getting ready to attempt to convert my rims to tubeless, and after weighing the options have decided to go with:
sealing the nipples with 3M 5200FC and covering with 3M 4412N tape as a redundancy. Has anyone on the forum done this mod yet? If so, what width tape did you use? Based on my measurements it looks like 2.5" for the rear and 2" for the front. My only concern with sealing the nipples is what to do if i need to "tune' the spokes at a later date. I was thinking of putting adhesive 'dots' over each of the nipples (like the Outex product ) prior to sealing with the adhesive sealant. Any advice or opinions are welcome.
sealing the nipples with 3M 5200FC and covering with 3M 4412N tape as a redundancy. Has anyone on the forum done this mod yet? If so, what width tape did you use? Based on my measurements it looks like 2.5" for the rear and 2" for the front. My only concern with sealing the nipples is what to do if i need to "tune' the spokes at a later date. I was thinking of putting adhesive 'dots' over each of the nipples (like the Outex product ) prior to sealing with the adhesive sealant. Any advice or opinions are welcome.