Breva 1200 paddock stand

[Bieze]

I 'm still not sure if the Becker-stand will suit a Breva, I 'll have to take a good look for the supportpoints.

Can the bike be supported under the sump? I have to change the front tyre soon. Since I don't have a center stand, all the weight will rest at the rear tyre and the sump-pan then... :?:

 

[kiwi dave]

To get the front tyre off the Breva, I would suggest investing in one of those front wheel stands that you just roll the bike onto, so that it remains upright. Mine is a Ventura, but probably there are other brands also suitable. You could perhaps just get someone to just hold the front of the bike if you trust them.

Then using a small car jack under the rear shock absorber, raise the rear until the rear tyre is off the ground by 40-50 mm. With the rear raised up, slip a suitable piece of waterpipe through the hole in the frame about midway along the length of the bike. You will probably have to remove or shorten a couple of screws that intrude into the slot where the pipe will slide. A couple of tall axle stands one one each end of the pipe will make the whole setup very stable.

Move the jack under the sump, and raise the front, hopefully you will have raised the rear tyre sufficiently to now enable the front to clear the ground. Cumbersome, but effective.

 

[Bieze]

... slip a suitable piece of waterpipe through the hole in the frame about midway along the length of the bike...

If I ever find the time... Maybe this solution can be mixed with an XL beckerstand??? B)

 

[apexal]

I wrote an email to Becker through their web site asking about shipping costs to the USA. Their reply is below. Has anybody in the US been able to buy a Becker stand or am I sh*t out of luck?

Dear Al,
Thank you for you inquity.
Sorry, but we don´t sell our products to the USA (and Canada also) because we have no product insurance for these countrys.
Kind regards

Simon Becker
Becker-Technik, Speckenstr. 7, D-37434 Bodensee, Tel.: 05507-3127

I'd like to ask the question again: Has anybody in the US been able to buy a Becker stand for a Griso?

 

[iainw]

I 'm still not sure if the Becker-stand will suit a Breva, I 'll have to take a good look for the supportpoints.

Can the bike be supported under the sump? I have to change the front tyre soon. Since I don't have a center stand, all the weight will rest at the rear tyre and the sump-pan then... :?:

When you pull the front wheel out the bike will then tilt onto the rear wheel. Put the front axle back in, and then place an axle stand under the axle.

 

[cytocycle]

I wrote an email to Becker through their web site asking about shipping costs to the USA. Their reply is below. Has anybody in the US been able to buy a Becker stand or am I sh*t out of luck?

Dear Al,
Thank you for you inquity.
Sorry, but we don´t sell our products to the USA (and Canada also) because we have no product insurance for these countrys.
Kind regards

Simon Becker
Becker-Technik, Speckenstr. 7, D-37434 Bodensee, Tel.: 05507-3127

I'd like to ask the question again: Has anybody in the US been able to buy a Becker stand for a Griso?

I just sent a request, and said I could wire the payment and insurance wasn't necessary. we'll see, I should have also said that they could use my Fedex account.... I would really like to get this stand.

 

[cytocycle]

Ok so the response was NO they are not insured to sell to the US... some export cost/certification that they aren't willing to do to sell to the US. I asked for another European distributor that might mail-order it.

http://www.sd-tec.de/catalog/product_in ... cee8dd85bc

was suggested. so I have ordered it tonight but haven't paid for it till they send me the final shipping cost. I will keep the forum informed how it goes.

Looks like $130 Euro's to buy and get it shipped aka $190 so expensive but I would rather have this than the Guzzi one.

 

[cytocycle]

Correction since there was no vat it was $98 Euro's or $144 US payment via paypal It took 1 day to get the invoice and shipping costs. I will update when the stand arrives

 

[cytocycle]

Stand Arrived well packaged.. and works great..sorry not to update this sooner but it arrived pretty quickly.

 

[Tamas Jovanovics]

Hi Phang and others,

ha, ha, ha,... Of course I don't mind...
Please use it.
I made a bit of a drawing for those who like it...


all is in mm... I'm of Europe...
I made it of stainless steel

Regards
Ad

Hi Ad

I know this has been discussed some time ago but I wonder if it would be possible to buy of you a set of adapters and bushings for thee becker stand. I am based in the UK (for postage). I hope you are still into Grisos and will hear back from you.

Kind regards
Tom
1100 Griso 2006

 

[Tizer]

Since you've had no replies, I will chime in with this contribution.

I wanted a centre-stand substitution for my 1200 Sport which I believe is almost identical to your Breva 1200.

At first I considered installing the stock centre stand, but then remembered it hangs up when getting ambitious in the corners. So I devised a paddock stand to lift on bobbins located at the pillion footrest location. The stand is an expansion of a standard rear stand with some extentions welded in to increase height, width and length. Front stand is as purchased.

Initially, I tried a pipe through the "hole in the frame" but the lifting point is too far forward, resulting in too much leverage required to raise the bike at this point. The bobbins at the pillion rest location was the only place I could find to lift that also allowed the rear wheel to be removed simultaneously.

Hope this helps.

Hey Dave looks like a great solution no worries on strength at all it a heavy lump what Bobbins you fir M8 M10 , Oh one thing more did you diid you just drill hole in centre or off to top bottom if you know what i mean did you disect hole that drilled that mounts it or didnt go that far in , anybody else done this mod ? Any close up pics be really usefull Cheers from Bonnie Scotland

 

[kiwi dave]

Hey Dave looks like a great solution no worries on strength at all it a heavy lump what Bobbins you fir M8 M10 , Oh one thing more did you diid you just drill hole in centre or off to top bottom if you know what i mean did you disect hole that drilled that mounts it or didnt go that far in , anybody else done this mod ? Any close up pics be really usefull Cheers from Bonnie Scotland

I used M8 bobbins, I think. The hole was drilled centre, right where there was maximum meat remaining around the hole. It's nowhere near the mounting hole, but on the underside of the pillion foot pegs (when they are in the down position). Obviously, to use the lift, the pillion foot pegs have to be in the up position.

I'll try and take a photo or two when I get a chance, but in the interim, here's a pix of my 1400 Cali sitting happily on a 12 mm mild steel rod.

 

[Tizer]

I used M8 bobbins, I think. The hole was drilled centre, right where there was maximum meat remaining around the hole. It's nowhere near the mounting hole, but on the underside of the pillion foot pegs (when they are in the down position). Obviously, to use the lift, the pillion foot pegs have to be in the up position.

I'll try and take a photo or two when I get a chance, but in the interim, here's a pix of my 1400 Cali sitting happily on a 12 mm mild steel rod.

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Hey Thanks man yeah got the general idea definetly gonna give it a go got spare stand to modify and bobbins ordered , yeah prob didnt explain it well enough just thinking about depth of threaded hole as it might disect the hole for mounting the pegs at at 90 degree angle but if youve had no issues good enough for me, pics would be great if you get a chance

Cheers Buddy

 

[kiwi dave]

Here's a close up shot as requested.



Yes, the tapped hole for the bobbin extends into the hole for the mounting pin, but the stud on the bobbin is not long enough to cause any interference. It just made it easier to tap in a thread.