Update on factory heated grips

[uzidzit]

On the 2012 ntx abs Stelvio, you can turn the heated grips on and off and adjust the heat, stopped, in gear , out of gear, or doing 100 down the road, makes no difference. Just thought you might like to know. I did a cannisterectomy, grip install, flashed ecu, pcv, and autotune yesterday and made this discovery last night at midnight during the shakedown run.

 

[Brian UK]

Yes, I remember reading that in the launch material from Guzzi.

 

[Campagman]

The factory units are so low in power that I just leave them on full from say October to March.............then have to read the book again to figure out how to switch off

 

[WayneOrwig]

then have to read the book again to figure out how to switch off

And on the old model you have to pull over. Put the bike in neutral. Get off the bike and set 12 lit candles around the bike. Get down on your knees and pray to Carlo Guzzi. Then hope the dashboard allows you to change the heat settings on the grips.
:roll:
Not being able to set the heat while moving is extremely bizarre.

BTW, I use after market foil heaters under the grips and they get HOT. As in, if you us the high heat setting and aren't wearing really heavy gloves, you are going to be in pain from the heat.

 

[Lannis]

then have to read the book again to figure out how to switch off

Not being able to set the heat while moving is extremely bizarre.

That's probably one of those "driving distractions" like GPSs and texting that we hear so much about. Guzzi was just engineering a safety feature into the system!

Lannis

 

[azguzzintx]

Good to know about the control function on the new NTX. I'm thinking of going with Oxford grips on mine. Any feedback on the best heated grips other than factory ones. I've seen the factory grips on other bikes and the material seems to break down and wear faster than I'd like. Any experience or advice?

Thanks!

 

[Mike1230]

Good to know about the control function on the new NTX. I'm thinking of going with Oxford grips on mine. Any feedback on the best heated grips other than factory ones. I've seen the factory grips on other bikes and the material seems to break down and wear faster than I'd like. Any experience or advice?

Thanks!

Az, I've had the Oxford heated grips on another bike and they are heavy duty in all aspects. The high setting is only for the initial grip warm up or when it's just really cold out. I'm in the process of installing the factory recommended grips on my very fast Orange Stelvio and they seem more fragile than the Oxfords. The electrical connections are not sealed and the supply wiring is lighter. Because they are specific to the Guzzi, you replace the grip and throttle tube on the right side.

If/when the factory recommended ones go out, I'll definitely go with the Oxfords.

Good luck in...Arizona or Texas?

 

[Toadride]

Oxford on mine. Can even feel the lowest setting in coldest weather. They are heavy duty in every respect including the very well protected wiring. Comfortable altho there are two different styles and the one style some people complain about. Mine are great. And, at the time I got mine the factory grips were being sold for a robber baron's price. Mine were, like, $80 the pair.
Found a blurry pic

 

[uzidzit]

I have had oxfords, as well, there is a set on my vfr right now with the classic oxford Failure, the heat controller dies and they will not turn off and only run on high (that will strand you really damn quick if they are not on switched power). :angry: At least you can use an aftermarket controller. I really hated that for the longest time they would not sell the controller as a spare. (I have a few sets of grips but no currently functioning controllers (oxford controllers that is)

Gerbing permanent heat controller is much more durable than the oxford (at least the dial type any way), and works great as a temp controller for oxford grips (be careful it will melt them).

The guzzi grips may turn out to be more fragile I am not sure, but the heat range is nice, and mine get hot enough to ride in the high twenties. The up side is because of how they mount they are the most even heat left to right heat I have ever had on a bike. (The Oxford grips themselves are great, controllers not so much)

PS you did fill the connectors with dielectric grease when ya plugged them up...Right, say yes :roll:
Just posted to let every one know, the neat feature of the factory controller is it remembers its setting, so if you stop to get gas etc., when ya start the bike again they come back on and at the setting you had them on. And the push button switch on the left grip is very well placed.

 

[WayneOrwig]

PS you did fill the connectors with dielectric grease when ya plugged them up...Right, say yes :roll:

I hope not.
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[uzidzit]

PS you did fill the connectors with dielectric grease when ya plugged them up...Right, say yes :roll:

I hope not.
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