V85 Left Hand Control assembly (turn signal button broken)

[grapaslingo]

Hi all,

Hoping someone might be able to assist. I broke my turn signal button—not sure how yet, but it’s just flopping around instead of staying in place. I need to get the assembly cover off so I can see what’s going on.

I was able to get the back cover of the assembly removed, but there are two screws I can’t seem to remove. They are pretty hard to reach, and the hex tools I’ve tried so far don’t seem to be working. Has anyone else removed this successfully?

I added a picture from the service manual that shows the location of these screws.

 

[Vagrant]

If allen doesn't work they are probably torx head.

 

[PaulDavies]

Hi all,

Hoping someone might be able to assist. I broke my turn signal button—not sure how yet, but it’s just flopping around instead of staying in place. I need to get the assembly cover off so I can see what’s going on.

I was able to get the back cover of the assembly removed, but there are two screws I can’t seem to remove. They are pretty hard to reach, and the hex tools I’ve tried so far don’t seem to be working. Has anyone else removed this successfully?

I added a picture from the service manual that shows the location of these screws.

They look like allen/hex - are they metric or imperial (just asking as bike is European and you are in US)

 

[grapaslingo]

Thanks, I’ll ensure that I have a good metric set just in case. I’ll report back later on if that was it.

 

[Raven]

Guzzi is all metric.

 

[john zibell]

The switch gear used is pretty delicate. Save yourself time and aggrivation and just order a new switch assembly.

 

[grapaslingo]

Thanks—but I still want to see what I can do, and I’ll feel better if I can just take the cover off to have a peek. The switch assembly is over $150.00, so I’m hoping there’s some…hope.

But I cannot figure out how to remove these screws. And even if I get the switch assembly, I still have to get them out. I just bought metric Allen wrenches but nothing is fitting correctly. Really weird.

Here’s the pic I took with the screws in question.

 

[PaulDavies]

Thanks—but I still want to see what I can do, and I’ll feel better if I can just take the cover off to have a peek. The switch assembly is over $150.00, so I’m hoping there’s some…hope.

But I cannot figure out how to remove these screws. And even if I get the switch assembly, I still have to get them out. I just bought metric Allen wrenches but nothing is fitting correctly. Really weird.

Here’s the pic I took with the screws in question.

They look a bit damaged. Did you round them off with the wrong size wrench?

 

[grapaslingo]

They look a bit damaged. Did you round them off with the wrong size wrench?

No, I have not been able to get any wrench to seat at all. So no torquing anything to cause any damage.

 

[grapaslingo]

Success! Sort of. They *were* star ones—I just couldn’t tell with the terrible lighting. I was able to unscrew them…but I still can’t get the plate to come off. Checking to see if there is another screw I can’t see.

 

[grapaslingo]

Alright, I’ll stop giving play by play after this. I was able to loosen the whole assembly enough to pull it off. Now I’ll see if I can figure out how to remove the front cover.

 

[john zibell]

Alright, I’ll stop giving play by play after this. I was able to loosen the whole assembly enough to pull it off. Now I’ll see if I can figure out how to remove the front cover.

If all else fails. amazon.com/Damaged-Stripped-Extractor-Remover-Broken/dp/B0883575ZJ/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2EEQL6RWPOSW&keywords=screw+extractor+set&qid=1662345137&sprefix=screw+extractor%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-4

 

[grapaslingo]

Thanks. I was able to get everything apart and have a look at the problem. The button is held on by two little plastic tabs that sit in slots on the top and bottom. The unit slides left and right on these hinges, with a spring for the center post (to push in to turn the signal off). The top hinge had snapped off, which explained why it was flopping around.

So, after I steam and pout about it, I’m going to stare at it for awhile if I can macguyver something to hold it in place. I’ll pay for the whole assembly only if I absolutely have to. I’m too stubborn to pay that much money for something like this.

 

[scottmastrocinque]

I regret to say that I predict frustration and aggravation from that course of action.

Motorcycles are an expensive toy.

If you aren’t prepared to pay, then it makes it difficult to play.

 

[grapaslingo]

I regret to say that I predict frustration and aggravation from that course of action.

Motorcycles are an expensive toy.

If you aren’t prepared to pay, then it makes it difficult to play.

Fair enough—I will if I absolutely have to. We’ll see. I was able to glue the tab on; we’ll see tomorrow if it holds.

 

[john zibell]

Even if the glue holds, it will only be temporary. That type of repair never lasts.

 

[grapaslingo]

Even if the glue holds, it will only be temporary. That type of repair never lasts.

Yep—it didn’t hold at all. As soon as I reinserted the button, the tab broke off. But I found that by stretching the spring slightly that it seems to help hold the button more in place. It seems to be ok for now, it will just be less smooth than it’s supposed to be with only one hinge point.

I’ll eventually have to replace it, but I’ll wait until it completely fails or one of the other buttons on the control breaks down.

 

[Vagrant]

And I thought I was cheap!

 

[grapaslingo]

And I thought I was cheap!

Man, I don’t get that at all. You have to pay for the whole assembly, which costs more than $150. How am I cheap by trying to fix one button? I find it crazy that you guys wouldn’t also at least make the attempt. If I could buy the whole button by itself for $5 or $10 bucks I would. But replacing an *entire* assembly for a floppy button seems insane to me…at least without trying to fix it.

 

[Raven]

I'm with you on this one.