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V85TT clutch slack adjust

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Calvin Cran

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My 21 Centenario has a hard time finding neutral in the first 5 minutes of riding. I can adjust the cable in and out and it makes no difference to the problem. After 5 minute it slips into neutral like butter but not before that!
 
Calvin Cran said:
since we are talking about shifting and clutches. My 21 Centenario has a hard time finding neutral in the first 5 minutes of riding. I can adjust the cable in and out and it makes no difference to the problem. After 5 minute it slips into neutral like butter but not before that!
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My rental fleet Guzzis had a "cold" motor adjust, and a "hot" motor adjust. 95% of the time the bikes returned with the clutch cable guitar string tight, despite repeated mention of required adjustment when they left. Those 95% complained of hard shifting and tough to find neutral.
I find it very hard to believe that clutch adjustment when cold makes no difference. Of the dozens of bikes we've serviced at my workshop, they all react to cold adjust.
 
Thanks If you can move the post I would appreciate it as I still am not sure about what you are saying here about the tight cable. I start with the cable adjusted according to the manual.
 
Calvin Cran said:
I still am not sure about what you are saying here about the tight cable. I start with the cable adjusted according to the manual.
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What part of what I wrote is unintelligible?
 
Calvin Cran said:
I guess the whole answer :) So what you are saying is the cold motor needs to be slack because when the motor warms up the cable will become tighter?
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There is a cold set, and a hot set. But you are saying that when cold no range of adjustment makes a difference?
 
It will be worse with more. I have found that the best way to measure free play is using an 80 thousands thick drill bit. Going up to 100 thousands and the V7III won't find neutral period and the V85 is really hard. Are you using the correct weight oil?
 
Unless you make a fix on the little arm that holds the adjuster in place you'll find your clutch will adjust itself in short order again.
I ended up fastening a zip tie lightly to hold the little spring arm in place and haven't had trouble since.

Here's a picture of the adjuster before I put the zip tie in place, you can see that it doesn't even touch. I used the zip tie around the threaded part of the clutch adjuster and the spring lever, not too tight but just enough to make it touch.

 
Just had a snapped cable on my 2022 V85 after 2200mls. I suspect the nipple was not moving freely in the lever and was therefore bending the cable each time the clutch was operated.
 
Wrinkley said:
Just had a snapped cable on my 2022 V85 after 2200mls. I suspect the nipple was not moving freely in the lever and was therefore bending the cable each time the clutch was operated.
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Thanks for posting. I'll start stocking these, and I'll test the old style adjuster and lock nut. Why they try to reinvent the wheel is a head-scratcher. I do realize it's the same they use on the Aprilias.
 
I've not had one of these to work on yet, and was curious if they do or do not utilize a plastic bushing on the barrel end of the cable?

Many motorcycle manufacturers went to this design to facilitate smooth rotation of the barrel within the moving lever. If Moto Guzzi did not, then to me, that would be a grease point for sure.

I would remove the lever and the barrel from it, cover it with Moly grease with my fingers, and then reinstall it into the lever and back onto the handlebars. That way, you are sure to have a smooth rotation of the barrel without stressing the cable attached to it.

Just a friendly suggestion. :)
 
scottmastrocinque said:
I've not had one of these to work on yet, and was curious if they do or do not utilize a plastic bushing on the barrel end of the cable?

Many motorcycle manufacturers went to this design to facilitate smooth rotation of the barrel within the moving lever. If Moto Guzzi did not, then to me, that would be a grease point for sure.

I would remove the lever and the barrel from it, cover it with Moly grease with my fingers, and then reinstall it into the lever and back onto the handlebars. That way, you are sure to have a smooth rotation of the barrel without stressing the cable attached to it.

Just a friendly suggestion. :)
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I've never greased that point on any bike. Grease will trap dirt which creates a whole new problem.
 
john zibell said:
I've never greased that point on any bike. Grease will trap dirt which creates a whole new problem.
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Never had dirt get up in there but point taken. I prefer the teflon/plastic sleeves but I don't know how this particular setup is as I've never had one in my workshop.

I guess, a shot of silicon lubricant now and then might be a better choice as John has a point.
 
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