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1400 Break In

Discussion in 'Cal 1400 8V' started by KCM, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. KCM

    KCM Just got it firing!

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    First time Guzzi guy. At the risk of creating more debate probably than tires or oil, recently read a piece by a guy calling himself "Moto Man". Some of his points are well taken, tho I've had no problems with my new engines in the past. His contention of use of petro base oil for break in causes an issue as I believe the 1400 comes with syn in it from the factory. I'm guessing Guzzis can use auto oil due to the pre unit construction. Even at that, I've found no petro 10w60 or even 10w50 on the market. Thoughts on break in procedure? Thanks.
     
  2. Trout

    Trout GT Reference

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    Use good quality oil that meets/exceeds factory specs.

    First 500 miles vary the throttle.
    In other words don't ride at the same speed for extended periods.

    Only allowed to bounce off the rev limiter a few times (Sarcasm just don't make a habit of it)

    Pretty much ride it according to your style.

    DON"T LUG THE ENGINE!
    Way better to run around the 4000 mark.

    Takes about 20,000 miles to fully break in a Guzzi but after the first 500 just ride the beast.

    Change all oils frequently & check adjust valves.
     
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  3. stephenm

    stephenm Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    "I've found no petro 10w60 or even 10w50 on the market. "

    Typically, only synthetics can cover such broad number spreads in their viscosity ratings.
    There are no circumstances when it is beneficial to use a lower quality oil than spec.
    The engine has Nikasil bores. This means, as already noted, a long break in period,
    but apart from never lugging the engine, no special treatment is required.
    If by 'auto oil' you mean there is no wet clutch to worry about, that is correct.
    Just stick to the spec 10W-60 synthetic.

    The engine loves to spin, and does not reward riders who expect it to be like a Harley.
    Let it run up and down the range, enjoy yourself.

    Stephen
     
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    Quattroa4m Tuned and Synch'ed GT Site Contributor!

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    Most likely Moto Guzzi used Nigusil which is a MG patented alloy/coating for cylinder bores.
     
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    Guzzi_Lou Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    ^ interesting on the Nigusil. I wonder if Nikasil, which is used by many car manufacturers in lieu of cylinder sleeves was a copy of that? Or vice versa ... actually, just looked it up.

    Nikasil invented in 1967 by Mahle. Nigusil introduced by MG in 1979.
     
  6. KCM

    KCM Just got it firing!

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    I guess the title of my original post was misleading, or my post wasn't completely read. As I said I've broken in many new engines over the years without any problems. My question has more to do with Moto Man and his break in regimen. Maybe no one is familiar with him?
     
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    stephenm Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    I am familiar with Motoman, and attempted to apply this technique to my new BMW 1200 GS in 2005. The first difficulty was that from the dealer on one side of the city to the mountains on the other side, on my way home, was 90 minutes of riding where full throttle runs were not possible. I made up for this crossing the mountains. I did early oil changes etc. The bike ran great for the 100,000km I owned it, but also used some oil for the first 20,000km. My current 1400 Touring bought new in 2013 had a similar early life, has never used oil, seemed to be really free running at about 20,000km, and with Todd's fuelling and full exhaust system, absolutely hammers. As Motoman repeatedly emphasises, get the bike to operating temperature first. Once there, get stuck in. I always get an early oil change in.

    Stephen
     
  8. KCM

    KCM Just got it firing!

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    Did you run the OEM syn oil until your first oil change? If so, how many miles?
     
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    stephenm Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    Yes, always the OEM spec full synthetic. I use Penrite 10W-60 PAO and ESTER.

    Stephen
     
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    stephenm Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    First change was when I got the bike home from buying it, so 430km.

    Stephen
     
  11. Robert Gibson

    Robert Gibson Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Site Contributor!

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    I can only concur what Trout posted, Castrol is my oil of choice.
     

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