Because I could not make up my mind, I purchased both screens and have been alternating them each week trying to sort out the differences. Jury is still out, but for those wrestling with where to spend their hard earned money, here are a few words and pics to add to your decision.
Dart Classic - to me, this screen looks the best. The Petrol Blue matches the bike blue better than my wife’s shoes and purse. When purchasing, I emailed with Dart to determine if the mounting brackets would work with the 2021. He (can’t remember his name) said the brackets they send “will work”. The “do work”, but aren’t a perfect fit around the diameter of the headlight. It’s darn close, but the gap is inconsistent. Top gap 1/8+” and the sides go down close to 1/16”. Once installed and tightened down, I had to tweak the fit symmetry by holding the front tire tightly between my legs and with both hands on either side of the screen assembly and shove in a direction to create a more symmetrical fit. Easy peasy and nothing to write home about. I just made the gaps equal and to my liking all the way around. Lastly, the brackets have a protrusion on the aft edge that fixes the screen position in the rear position. In other words, the screen can lean only so far back because of this built in mechanical stop. The bottom of this mechanical “stop” is designed to contact against the top of the blinker mount. I cut a piece of rubber hose (washer fluid hose) to 1/2” and split lengthwise with a razor knife and cradled the mechanical stop like a vibration/anti-chaffing strip to better protect the blinker mount.
Moto Guzzi 2S001569 Windshield - this screen also looks good, but just does not produce the style result I think I’m after. It definitely looks good proportionally to the bike and aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Mounting is just like the Dart EXCEPT the “mechanical stop” for the aft movement is a bolt hole in each mounting bracket that uses the blinker mount bolt. Basically the screen bracket is sandwiched between the blinker plastic extension and the blinker mount/base. Very secure. I also tweaked this one like the Dart above to make the symmetry better. You have to remember that these brackets are pressed sheetmetal, not machines billet, so they aren’t perfect.
How do they perform?
I’m 55, 6’, lean mean 180# fightin machine. Performance is rather subjective and, as I alluded to above, I’m still trying to determine which provides me what I’m after in looks and performance. In the end, I know I have to make some concessions one way or the other.
Dart- there is a “noticeable” change in the wind on my chest from naked to Classic. Is it measurable? Yes. Am I able to say what the measurement is? Nope. It’s JUST noticeable, that’s all. Riding conditions effect tests like this and are NEVER consistent. Riding back roads on a calm day VS highway with big semi trucks disturbing the air ahead of me. Nothing scientific about my comments, but maybe they will help some how. At 65-80 I “feel” wind on my whole chest area, but it is “reduced”. Backroads, no traffic, my Schuberth C3 Pro doesn’t bobble at all. In traffic, the “gusts” cause some buffeting, but I am convinced this is directly related to traffic turbulence. Approximately so, the faster my speed, the more impact “gusts” have on my helmet.
MG 2S001569 - marked difference in the wind deflection. While I do have some wind on my chest, the relief is enough that I’m not holding on for dear life at 85mph. HOWEVER, my melon is bobbling about and I don’t like that. At 65, the bobbling is MUCH less and “possibly” more because of the traffic gusts. 55 and below, GREAT windscreen. But none of us ride down at that end of the Speedo! I “feel” the majority of the wind JUST above my chest and definitely on my shoulders.
Where am I in my decision? STILL deciding if my preference for the Dart Classic “look” is worth the “small in MY mind” of added wind on my chest. My wife and I “tour” on a 2017 Trophy, ST1100 and Tiger 955i. This 850 Special seat isn’t comfortable enough for my boney backside to spend hours cross country’ing. For me, this bike’s role is local or just outside local day trip riding. I find the balance of the bike to be almost “incredible”. I LOVE to ride it on the curvy backroads (FM roads here in Texas).
Hope this convoluted evaluation has value to someone!
Dart Classic - to me, this screen looks the best. The Petrol Blue matches the bike blue better than my wife’s shoes and purse. When purchasing, I emailed with Dart to determine if the mounting brackets would work with the 2021. He (can’t remember his name) said the brackets they send “will work”. The “do work”, but aren’t a perfect fit around the diameter of the headlight. It’s darn close, but the gap is inconsistent. Top gap 1/8+” and the sides go down close to 1/16”. Once installed and tightened down, I had to tweak the fit symmetry by holding the front tire tightly between my legs and with both hands on either side of the screen assembly and shove in a direction to create a more symmetrical fit. Easy peasy and nothing to write home about. I just made the gaps equal and to my liking all the way around. Lastly, the brackets have a protrusion on the aft edge that fixes the screen position in the rear position. In other words, the screen can lean only so far back because of this built in mechanical stop. The bottom of this mechanical “stop” is designed to contact against the top of the blinker mount. I cut a piece of rubber hose (washer fluid hose) to 1/2” and split lengthwise with a razor knife and cradled the mechanical stop like a vibration/anti-chaffing strip to better protect the blinker mount.
Moto Guzzi 2S001569 Windshield - this screen also looks good, but just does not produce the style result I think I’m after. It definitely looks good proportionally to the bike and aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Mounting is just like the Dart EXCEPT the “mechanical stop” for the aft movement is a bolt hole in each mounting bracket that uses the blinker mount bolt. Basically the screen bracket is sandwiched between the blinker plastic extension and the blinker mount/base. Very secure. I also tweaked this one like the Dart above to make the symmetry better. You have to remember that these brackets are pressed sheetmetal, not machines billet, so they aren’t perfect.
How do they perform?
I’m 55, 6’, lean mean 180# fightin machine. Performance is rather subjective and, as I alluded to above, I’m still trying to determine which provides me what I’m after in looks and performance. In the end, I know I have to make some concessions one way or the other.
Dart- there is a “noticeable” change in the wind on my chest from naked to Classic. Is it measurable? Yes. Am I able to say what the measurement is? Nope. It’s JUST noticeable, that’s all. Riding conditions effect tests like this and are NEVER consistent. Riding back roads on a calm day VS highway with big semi trucks disturbing the air ahead of me. Nothing scientific about my comments, but maybe they will help some how. At 65-80 I “feel” wind on my whole chest area, but it is “reduced”. Backroads, no traffic, my Schuberth C3 Pro doesn’t bobble at all. In traffic, the “gusts” cause some buffeting, but I am convinced this is directly related to traffic turbulence. Approximately so, the faster my speed, the more impact “gusts” have on my helmet.
MG 2S001569 - marked difference in the wind deflection. While I do have some wind on my chest, the relief is enough that I’m not holding on for dear life at 85mph. HOWEVER, my melon is bobbling about and I don’t like that. At 65, the bobbling is MUCH less and “possibly” more because of the traffic gusts. 55 and below, GREAT windscreen. But none of us ride down at that end of the Speedo! I “feel” the majority of the wind JUST above my chest and definitely on my shoulders.
Where am I in my decision? STILL deciding if my preference for the Dart Classic “look” is worth the “small in MY mind” of added wind on my chest. My wife and I “tour” on a 2017 Trophy, ST1100 and Tiger 955i. This 850 Special seat isn’t comfortable enough for my boney backside to spend hours cross country’ing. For me, this bike’s role is local or just outside local day trip riding. I find the balance of the bike to be almost “incredible”. I LOVE to ride it on the curvy backroads (FM roads here in Texas).
Hope this convoluted evaluation has value to someone!
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