Hi Friends! Do you have any idea how to change this ugly, plastic plate mount? Plastic is so bad that broke twice in my belly and now it is attached on only 2 screws. Please show me photos of your bellagio with some link where to buy it because there is nothing useful in the net.
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CARC mounted Plate holder in UK/EU
Hi Looking to source a Carc mounted plateholder, from what I can find on the web the Stucchi ones look the best, but I can't find where to order from. Are there any other options to relocate the plate, such as side mounting etc. Thanks guys S
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Had the same problem with my Bellagio and it's a design fault rather than a material choice fault.
I chose to keep the plate/ mudguard original and repair it thusly -
Remove the ridiculous metal spine that runs up under the duck tail that holds the reflector and throw it in the bin.
Every time I walked the bike backwards I accidentally impacted my garage wall it simply levers the guard at its end and that's exactly where the screws are under the ducktail.
Remove the duck tail from the rear frame, flip it over and assess the damage to the plastic female threads. Mine were so bad that I used alloy angle, tapped the thread to suit and using "Liquid Nails" or construction adhesive.
Let dry, flip over and reassemble.
Replace the missing spine and its reflector with a self adhesive rectangular one.
10 years later, no issue.
So to recap, it's a design fault and the leverage supplied by that loooong spine is to blame. It looks totally original and far stronger by allowing the natural flex that the plastic gives.
Top pic shows the previously failed screw and the lower pic shows final result.
Chris.
I chose to keep the plate/ mudguard original and repair it thusly -
Remove the ridiculous metal spine that runs up under the duck tail that holds the reflector and throw it in the bin.
Every time I walked the bike backwards I accidentally impacted my garage wall it simply levers the guard at its end and that's exactly where the screws are under the ducktail.
Remove the duck tail from the rear frame, flip it over and assess the damage to the plastic female threads. Mine were so bad that I used alloy angle, tapped the thread to suit and using "Liquid Nails" or construction adhesive.
Let dry, flip over and reassemble.
Replace the missing spine and its reflector with a self adhesive rectangular one.
10 years later, no issue.
So to recap, it's a design fault and the leverage supplied by that loooong spine is to blame. It looks totally original and far stronger by allowing the natural flex that the plastic gives.
Top pic shows the previously failed screw and the lower pic shows final result.
Chris.
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Some of you seem to have broken pieces in weird positions or locations, which usually perform a particular function. 
It truly boggles my mind because in my whole life I’ve never experienced a failure of anything like most of these.
It truly boggles my mind because in my whole life I’ve never experienced a failure of anything like most of these.
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Chris Wilson
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Just so it's clear, throws parts 6 to 10 shown on the attachment in the bin.
Chris Wilson
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Hi Scott, please see the above part 6 and how far it protrudes out from the rear guard, probably 350mm long and angled well beyond the rear guard.Some of you seem to have broken pieces in weird positions or locations, which usually perform a particular function.
It truly boggles my kind because in my whole life I’ve never experienced a failure of anything like most of these.
My wife used to walk by the garaged bike and trip on it, when parking rear to kerb it regularly caught pedestrians legs and I only really cottoned on to the problem when I struck the garage wall when backing.
I have seen a Bellagio wreck with a view to buy, it had the same shattered ducktail issue, other wrecked in parts bikes same thing, so it appears to be common.
My friend across the road, who is a metal work design teacher, viewed my bike when first purchased and commented, "Get rid of the spine."
It's obvious and wrong, and when viewed from behind by others who are following, have told me that it twangs like a tuning fork.
A couple of million twangs, and its sure to cause stress fractures where it mounts from.
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Scott, we wouldn't see it. The Bellagio was never imported to the US.Some of you seem to have broken pieces in weird positions or locations, which usually perform a particular function.
It truly boggles my mind because in my whole life I’ve never experienced a failure of anything like most of these.
Chris Wilson
Moderator
This gives one some idea of the length of the metal spine that holds the reflector.
It wasn’t meant as a pejorative, only a weird anomaly.
The Stelvio is the same actually.
The Stelvio is the same actually.
Norge too, perhaps not as large as the Bellagio.
Chris Wilson
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Both the Norge and the Stelvio have racks and/or luggage that protrude past the reflector and that saves it accidental impact.
The reflector spine may well be the same part but it's application on the cruiser styled Bellagio is problematic as this is the 4th Bellagio that I have witnessed with shattered rear guard mounts.
It simply sticks out far beyond any other part of the bike and just begs to be well..... twanged!
The reflector spine may well be the same part but it's application on the cruiser styled Bellagio is problematic as this is the 4th Bellagio that I have witnessed with shattered rear guard mounts.
It simply sticks out far beyond any other part of the bike and just begs to be well..... twanged!
Such a shame. That really stinks.
I removed it from the v7 