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Expect trouble
- Thread starter chipper
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Chipper;
Has the recall been done to your bike ?
Cam and tappets, if yours is subject to it DONT pick it up until it's done !
Has the recall been done to your bike ?
Cam and tappets, if yours is subject to it DONT pick it up until it's done !
Gary
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Jasus Crust, I caused a few heart attacks for saying less than that.
Going for my 1300 mile service next week.
Magic bike,except for the tank range.
C'mon Guzzi make a 30 litre tank.
Going for my 1300 mile service next week.
Magic bike,except for the tank range.
C'mon Guzzi make a 30 litre tank.
I am buying the bike new on an 09 plate but it is an 08 model. I will check if the recall on the cams has been done which I think it has. I am not the most mechanically minded person as I have too much stone dust on the brain. Apart from the recall no major issues. Chipper
Gary, I don't mind being pilloried for my post, the official recall is out there for all to digest. If it was my bike you can be damned sure I would be following my own advise. I believe that was only one Heart Attack if memory serves me right. :laugh:
Gary
Cruisin' Guzzisti
Whattttt !
Bit too heavy for this time of night.
Love the Stelvio and 8v engine
You've no doubt ridden one for a few miles too.
Bit too heavy for this time of night.
Love the Stelvio and 8v engine
You've no doubt ridden one for a few miles too.
Welcome Chipper - and congrats on your new bike - please post pics of you collecting it from your dealer, they are the best pics of all.
I would not worry about the reliability - if it is in the VIN number range, get the valve recall attended to and that will be it. Certainly there might be some minor niggles that need a few months to make themselves known and be sorted out but but that is the case with any brand of vehicle, and certainly not a reason to regret buying it. To date I have not seen any major reliability issues that would make me regret a Stelvio purchase.
Post often - there's lotsa help here!
I would not worry about the reliability - if it is in the VIN number range, get the valve recall attended to and that will be it. Certainly there might be some minor niggles that need a few months to make themselves known and be sorted out but but that is the case with any brand of vehicle, and certainly not a reason to regret buying it. To date I have not seen any major reliability issues that would make me regret a Stelvio purchase.
Post often - there's lotsa help here!
WayneOrwig
GT Reference
Two months and 2000 miles on mine.
I had a turn signal bulb fail the other day. :angry:
Piece of junk. :cheer:
My replacement tappets are here. I may replace them in a week or two.
I had a turn signal bulb fail the other day. :angry:
Piece of junk. :cheer:
My replacement tappets are here. I may replace them in a week or two.
Penis Rotor
GT Godfather!
If you aren't mechanically sympathetic I would advise against using the machine until the recall 'Technical update' work has been carried out. As long as you feel you have the nouse to know when something changes with the noise or performance of the engine and if it does you stop riding immediately you should be OK but continuing to ride once the problem has started will result in damage that can and will destroy your engine.
Scroll through this thread:
http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.p ... =14516&hl=
And you will see and read what CAN happen if the problem is ignored. There was/is certainly a hardening issue with SOME tappets, almost certainly the result of 'Lowest Bidder' pricing on parts supply but many machines, mine included, have done substantial mileages with no problems and mine isn't used gently.
There are certainly a couple of other design issues that I think should be addressed and at least one of them, the lack of radiusing on the tappets, has it seems been addressed with the updated parts.
The real problem though is if, like the machine whose parts are shown in those pics, extensive damage is allowed to take place the frag will be fed not only through the oil pumps damaging them but also throughout the top end of the motor and in all likelyhood the bottom end too. While Belfast DAve's bike has had the recall work done the 'Mechanic' who carried out the work seemingly ignored the fact that the cam bearing journals are destroyed. That means that the bearings in the 'Scaffold' that the cam turns in will be packed with hardened particulate matter that has, in effect, turned the bearing into a 4,000RPM rotary grinder. Putting new cams in there is about as much use as trying make a hot air baloon out of woven lead. Every other bearing and load taking face in the motor will be similarly damaged. Unfortunately, the engine is scrap. Piaggios suggestion that a simple flush with oil, (without even taking the sump off!) is ludicrous.
As noted in another post I pulled the cam on one side of my motor the other day as I was beginning to get paranoid. It was fine, but I'm still waiting on the new parts and will be being cautious until they arrive. Caution though is the watchword, not, unlike many of the ignorant and uninformed would have you believe, panic.
Pete
Scroll through this thread:
http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.p ... =14516&hl=
And you will see and read what CAN happen if the problem is ignored. There was/is certainly a hardening issue with SOME tappets, almost certainly the result of 'Lowest Bidder' pricing on parts supply but many machines, mine included, have done substantial mileages with no problems and mine isn't used gently.
There are certainly a couple of other design issues that I think should be addressed and at least one of them, the lack of radiusing on the tappets, has it seems been addressed with the updated parts.
The real problem though is if, like the machine whose parts are shown in those pics, extensive damage is allowed to take place the frag will be fed not only through the oil pumps damaging them but also throughout the top end of the motor and in all likelyhood the bottom end too. While Belfast DAve's bike has had the recall work done the 'Mechanic' who carried out the work seemingly ignored the fact that the cam bearing journals are destroyed. That means that the bearings in the 'Scaffold' that the cam turns in will be packed with hardened particulate matter that has, in effect, turned the bearing into a 4,000RPM rotary grinder. Putting new cams in there is about as much use as trying make a hot air baloon out of woven lead. Every other bearing and load taking face in the motor will be similarly damaged. Unfortunately, the engine is scrap. Piaggios suggestion that a simple flush with oil, (without even taking the sump off!) is ludicrous.
As noted in another post I pulled the cam on one side of my motor the other day as I was beginning to get paranoid. It was fine, but I'm still waiting on the new parts and will be being cautious until they arrive. Caution though is the watchword, not, unlike many of the ignorant and uninformed would have you believe, panic.
Pete
WayneOrwig
GT Reference
pete roper wrote:
My take on the "flush with oil" instructions are that those instructions are for the general population with a bike that is getting the new tappets/cams, was running fine, and has NOT failed. The oil flush is just a precaution.
Of course if the bike has had a failure or obvious tappet wear, a simple flush isn't going to cut it.
My take on the "flush with oil" instructions are that those instructions are for the general population with a bike that is getting the new tappets/cams, was running fine, and has NOT failed. The oil flush is just a precaution.
Of course if the bike has had a failure or obvious tappet wear, a simple flush isn't going to cut it.